They still stand a much greater chance than someone trying to use AGM-65s or GBUs
Then front up with what I said then…
that is true, but still no plane in this game and these maps outranges iris.
Used to have fun on 12.0 a10C what is quite turd since it’s slow , or 8b+ ,
Pantsir and ito were manageable , but these new s**** just nope, cant do a damn on those.
Personal opinion, claws, iris , etc new long range aa should be 13.0
Elbe, and that china lav ad could be 12.3
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It’s not a news, what Gaijin BR system is broken, i agree on that. I said it many times, CAS has all tools to defend itself. At top tier CAS problem is lesser after last update, i agree on that too but still CAS player who uses terrain, countermeasures and just knows how to play is practically undefeated from ground.
Yep, again, 11.3-12.0 ground needs to be decompressed, it isnt just the SPAAs.
Outplayed, that does take skill you know…
You say this a lot, but really it shows that you can’t handle engagement…
Bye
Fingers in ears whispering ‘nyanyanyanya’ doesn’t save you from being critiqued and contested.
Not only 11.3-12.0, decomposition is need almost all BRs.
And again… As stated earlier. The level of compression at top tier is far more extreme.
A 9.0 can fight against a 10.0. Doesnt mean they are equal, but they at least stand a chance.
Most 11.7s barely stand a chance against the 12.0s.
On some parts yes, but still I would prefer as hotfix on keeping MBT’s on this point where those are 12.0 And instead push these top jets 0,3 more so those are 13.3
And same treatment on these new spaa’s (excluding china and swede ) and place em also on 13.3
This way players who like top mbt battles get’s those and are not annoyed on overperforming CAS (just performing :D) and those annoying cas gets those aa’s they deserve to face.
And on bonus actually people on not so performing aa’s could spade em
it would not be perfect but it would be least something to make 11.3-12.0 enjoyable
I do agree… to a point, but even excluding the new set of SPAA. THere is a massive difference in performance between Otomatic, Imp Chap and ADATS and things like the Tor, IT0 and Pantsir.
So they really need to just decompress top tier ground, including CAS and then buff CAS. Add new tools, like ECM, CBUs and ARM. Let alone making sure everyone has FNF
Again, doesn’t matter 11.3-13.0… fly low, use terrain and countermeasures. AA missiles need some range to get speed, so it can’t hit plane at close ranges also it looses speed after 10 km so badly just slight maneuver can avoid hit.
They are fully capable to outplay any top tier AA.
That writes off all skill just because you’re jaded about it.
not that counter measures really work agains the IRIS-T SLM. But then what?
Gun strafe?
No they dont. A Tonka IDS or Su-24 or A-10C, these aircraft are never going to get in range to use GBUs or unguided bombs
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Nope those are not, if you try to say 11.7/12.0 jets stand a change on these new aa’s.
Welcome to try , I can take IRIS , you can cherry pick any 11.7 or 12.0 jet you want :D
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I’m not playing CAS, it’s not interesting gameplay for me. But i played Iris-T and got destroyed by su27s, my radar couldn’t lock on them, because i met pilots with few brain cells… They were flying low and fast and that’s what I’m trying to tell you, no AA can outplay decent CAS player.
All AAs have ir radar lock, which doesn’t works if you use terrain, fly low and use countermeasures time to time.
For certain aircraft like the a10, the speed and gun actually makes it super easy to kill these top tier sams if you get close. (I think my a10C has the most kills against them lol)
New AAs are so big you can see them from other maps+ they are so easy to kill, war thunder maps aren’t designed for them, enemy can see you anywhere, + to destroy CAS you have to be on open and highter plase what makes AAs even easier targets as for ground as for CAS, there’s literally no position for it on 90% of maps.