Incerase BR of new SPAA's from the Leviathan update

From where did you get those ranges?? Where are they written in game?? Show me cards, where it’s written.

Weapons don’t have static capabilities.
For IR seekers, the heat of the target impacts its sensitivity.
For TV seekers, the size of the target impacts its sensitivity.

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I understand, but where you get those exact ranges?

Did you not read the post, he’s showing it in that post.

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You can see in the screenshots.
Point = no track.
Track = locked on target.

It primarily shows when using a targeting pod which is why I used the Su-34 for the illustration; especially since your post claimed Kh-29TD.

I’d test on differently sized vehicles, but that takes time which I do not have.

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Have you actually played any of these vehicles or Ordinances? Numbers do not reflect reality, R77 has a range of 80km yet try to launch one above 40km as see if it will hit anything

KH29 barely locks targets at 12km.
KH38 will lock any dead husk within 200m of a target if you try to lock it at 20km+.
AGM65 on the F15E can lock around 14km effectively, but it takes more than 40 seconds to arrive, it is slow and even a WW2 truck can intercept it if they see.

Meanwhile IRIS T can lock behind trees, with the radar behind buildings, it has effective launch range over the entire map, i’ve been targeted on Iberian Castle WHILE TAKING OFF the airfield of the south size of the map by an IRIS T at one corner of the A flag.

Your reliance on “numbers” rather than reality of the game speaks loudly.

The only way to properly deal with an IRIS T is climbing as soon as you take off, launch 3 or 4 ordinances JUST on the Iris T because they will intercept most (an pray they don’t J out as soon as one missile get’s too close), and then go away since they will launch 2 or more missiles at you that will track you for more than a minute, i’ve been killed many times while landing the airfield behind terrain by an IRIS T that had J out more than a minute ago

Funny how you can do that, kill half the enemy team with the tank just to spawn a plane, but then die to soemthing worth 70sp and 2 clicks with no counter.

Instead you could just kill the other before they have enough sp

Irit-T is overpovered, CAS fuffers… Just watch this guy, if you can’t play effectively top tier CAS it’s your skill issue. As i said before, if pilot has few brain cells and has minimal knowledge how to play, he is undefeated from ground.

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Since these are russian planes and therefore likelyhood that they faced pantsir was much amaller, they faced ADATS/VT1 most of the time.

And as such, im calling your skill issue out.

Global stats pre-Leviathans dont support your claims, and your own stats dont support your claims either. You clearly spam soviet light tanks and then hop into Su-34 to spam Kh-38MTs.

So save your cope, literally no one is interested.

Spawn a tank i guess.

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First map of that video, only map where cas is complete dominant, especially from that side since enemy spawn is behind those hills and they cant get radar lock.
Second map, just showing how shit S1 actually is against cas (no Iris on game)
Third. Well Iris got it, and on first run wtf that iris was doing since it didnt even shoot it when it got that f16 in radar.
4th map, yep S1 is shit against cas and Iris cant do a thing when it is repairing it’s radar as we can see.

So actually that vid proved nothing what we dont allready know. And 98% of cas players are not even half that decent to fly. Just like looking clip when that one tiktokker 24xx spawn point on reserve swedish tank on hi tier for nuke, does it make that tank op? Nope, it’s just pulling what least 98% players cant do.

And before you told that you dont play CAS , so you dont actually have a clue how those 11+br planes actually can do against these new aa’s -.-

Nothing changes the fact that if you stick on spawn in AA especially IRIS you got no clue how to play it, best is drive somewhere corner/safe location behind spawn, drop your missiles just anywhere since it takes full vertical launch it can be behind building safe, and make sure you can get that radardish where it gets most clean view on enemy airspawn and just point and click

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While we’re on the topic of SPAAs, when are they going to bring back the Type 81c to 11.3 so it can have a lineup again, and when are they going to give japan an actual worthy top tier spaa and not this tansam… joke.

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TanSAM is so cool, half of the game it is reloading due to the launcher bugging.

That’d be interesting to see how it bugs and what’s causing it to push it to be fixed if it does end up locked in a cycle like that.

We do not need to move SAMs down. If anything, we should just move the vehicles around them up.

Heck No. That 81 was just baby iris on 11.3
Yes it brought lineup on 11.3 but that thing ripped every flying 10.3-12 like nothing. It is allready enough To have Fuji on 11.3 and ruining peoples ground games

the baby iris-t wich its easy as heck to kill because it was an usual occurance that the lack of radar killed it

Except most people are interested in this, if they weren’t there wouldn’t be 1000+ messages on this topic, it’s easier to look at one’s stats than to recognize that the fact that ADATS and other similar SPAAs were underperforming in comparison with Pantsir, that the problem is just adding super overpowered SPAAs to allies, Germany now has the very CAS/Multirole plane as in the Eurofighter, and the best Spaa in the IRIS T.

No one is asking for a nerf or IRIS T missiles, or reducing effectivety of Humvee Truck missiles, these SPAAs were added to counter experienced CAS players that knew how to hunt Adats and Flakrad players that just sat at spawn.
But they have no place at 12.0 where they just deny all drone and 11.0/11.3 aircraft, an F4E against an IRIS T is fair? No, a KA50 can deal with an IRIS T hiding behind a building but the radar still locking things 1 meter above the ground 20 kilometers away? No.

We need just to send them to where they belong, to 13.0 and 12.7 to fight the CAS they were added to “counter”

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That’s an interesting way of describing flicking Hammers and Kh-38s outside of SPAA range

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Its difficult to press spacebar few times, duh.

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But it would be unreasonble to expect the Su-34 and Su-30 to fight ADATS with an AGM-65 equivalent like the KH-29.

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