I propose lowering the combat rating of the Abrams

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@iMatty01

just like no one cared when the M735

Literally who , US main been crying about EVERYTHING on this forum about the Abram , about their jet about everything for months. Who is “No one” here

@iMatty01

Everyone here keeps coping by saying "it is fast,use its speed at your advantage " and then you come up with this, scratching my head right now because i never knew that the bias could be so strong that reasoning straight up is turned off.
You use your speed to flank,thus you need to use flanking routes. Any player with a good pair of braincells knows where the route is on a certain map and can (and will) wait for the enemy. How can you be so sure to “play more carefully”? It is quite literally counterintuitive: if you’re more careful,you’re not using your speed and thus your main point,but if you’re using it the chances of being heard and still get noticed are high.

Because it is still workable with cause you have speed, if flanking doesn’t work there are other thing to do , have you looked at other nation. Your personal biased is also big , don’t just point at people who counter your take then calling them out with biased this biased that or anti-US. I gave you one of many options to not raise the BR of the M1 above the current br that it is sitting at. You instantly rejected it with “Not realistic” , if you want realistic , go enlist yourself in the US army. Don’t larp on russian mili sim

[Dragon_Storm_246]

@艦むす愛好家 and yes this is coming from someone who actually plays Abrams tanks. Just look at my stat card if you dont believe me. Also nice 26% win rate it the M1 Aim. Obviously you dont have any sort of weight in this conversation so your points/arguments are invalid.

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Ah yes stats matter , cause US team are peak horrible , I don’t care bro , cope. Don’t bring stats up

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Ahhh yes US mains crying about vehicles in war thunder. Last time i had a peak at the bug reports forums, it was filled with chinese main bots fludding the upvotes trying to get their planes/tanks/helis buffed in some game breaking way

[Dragon_Storm_246]

You have 1 Abrams how can you make a claim with that?

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Wow chinese crying about their stuff ? Sorry to hear that , I simply don’t care.I did say that fixing problem about the M1 and their stuff. The guy out right rejected it, what else babe

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But are my claims bad , counter it then. I have not brought up anyone stats given they don’t do the same. And no i am not chinese, nice personal attack bro. Cope harder

[Dragon_Storm_246]

Its win rate/ stats are low, therefore give it a more competitive round that fits it’s BR… Like M833

[iMatty01]

@艦むす愛好家

Literally who , US main been crying about EVERYTHING on this forum about the Abram

There are over 50 posts here about the M735 so go take a look
P.S.: Japan and Italy also use the M735,and they also got angry. But i guess their voice also doesn’t matter to you,right?

@艦むす愛好家

Because it is still workable with cause you have speed

Again,speed is not all that matters when your engine can be heard further from any diesel engines. A Type 10 is better at flanking than an Abrams

@艦むす愛好家

I gave you one of many options to not raise the BR

I love how y’all guys think that you’re Gaijin employees and are granitic that adding M833 and M900 would warrant a raise in BR equal to the IPM1

The M1A1 HC got the best round for the US,and yet its raise in BR was the same as everyone else,thus it’s not facing constant 12.0 material. Strange,huh?

@艦むす愛好家

Don’t larp on russian mili sim

Yep,now i know your bias

[Dragon_Storm_246]

You keep on arguing that mobility is all it and that mobility is OP ot something, when in reality its about whos round pens more, where to shoot, and actually being able to identify and predict where the enemy tanks are coming from. And obviously to do this you need to actually hear the enemy tank in front of you. Which is practically impossible with the god awful turbine screem from abrams tanks

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@iMatty01

There are over 50 posts here about the M735 so go take a look
P.S.: Japan and Italy also use the M735,and they also got angry. But i guess their voice also doesn’t matter to you,right?

Check all the post about M1 abram , not just that shell in general

@iMatty01

Again,speed is not all that matters when your engine can be heard further from any diesel engines. A Type 10 is better at flanking than an Abrams

Cope , the Type 10 , TKX have flanking at it strongest point , bringing it up as one of your " support point " doesn’t help

@iMatty01

I love how y’all guys think that you’re Gaijin employees and are granitic that adding M833 and M900 would warrant a raise in BR equal to the IPM1

The M1A1 HC got the best round for the US,and yet its raise in BR was the same as everyone else,thus it’s not facing constant 12.0 material. Strange,huh?

It will give them reason to , if you insist , sure

@iMatty01

Yep,now i know your bias

What biase then , i play 3 nation. Currently grinding the 4th , I think i know about other nation when it come to which is worse or bad when it compare to the US than you do. I don’t favour any nation in the game.

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@Dragon_Storm_246

whos round pens more

Ok T90M/80BVM have worse top shell. T90M have one of the worst mobility in the game. 2A7 have better shell yet worse mobility. Type10/TKX have worse shell pen , no armor but better mobility

@Dragon_Storm_246

where to shoot, and actually being able to identify and predict where the enemy tanks are coming from

This is down to player , don’t push it on to tank

[Dragon_Storm_246]

@iMatty01 Just dont waist your time with this guy, Id make a suggestion post on the bug report page or in the regular forums.

Also On a Side note, The Pl-12 and the SD-10A are the exact same missile. Every time i go on the bug reports forums, theres always some chinese main shill trying to come up with some phony sources caiming they are 2 different performing missiles.

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@艦むす愛好家

Check all the post about M1 abram , not just that shell in general

Don’t shift the goalposts,you support the decision to “only give the M833 if the M774 is nerfed”,just like they nerfed the M735 thus crippling many nations. Look at those posts or kindly refrain from this subject

@艦むす愛好家

the Type 10 , TKX have flanking at it strongest point

So does the Abrams, according to your wicked logic. So you’re either rage-baiting,or you don’t know what you’re talking about. And judging by the fact that apparently you didn’t do well in an Abrams,i think it’s the latter

@艦むす愛好家

2A7 have better shell yet worse mobility. Type10/TKX have worse shell pen , no armor but better mobility

You forgot to put the fact that the 2A7 has spall liner+extremely tiny weakspots in the front and that the Type 10 has a 4s reload,but okay

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LMAO , can’t make a counter point so “don’t waste time on this guy”. Sure bro , i am not chinese but sure. Block me then bro

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@iMatty01

And judging by the fact that apparently you didn’t do well in an Abrams,i think it’s the latter

Not only that he doesnt do well in them, He literally has 1 Abrams tank in the whole game, which happens to be the Squadron one.

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@iMatty01

So does the Abrams

No ? Tfw abram strongest point is flanking. Literally posting reasons why Abram bad at flanking but still claiming it strong point is flanking

@iMatty01

You forgot to put the fact that the 2A7 has spall liner+extremely tiny weakspots

Aim better

@iMatty01

ype 10 has a 4s reload

No armor , worse gun handling , that doesn’t exist i guess

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Nice stalking me babe , your stats in everything is also mid , why bother yapping about stats when your brain can’t make a good counter point , all you have is “He le bad , doesn’t play abram” cool babe.

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Do you have Type 10 or TKX

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@艦むす愛好家

Because it is still workable with cause you have speed, if flanking doesn’t work

Tell me what you’ll do with speed then,other than flanking (which realistically is not the strongest suit), reaching sniping positions early (good only for the 120mm Abrams)and capping points early. What do you want as a tactic,running open in the field like a walking piñata? Again,you’re proving that you never played the Abrams

@艦むす愛好家

Aim better

Chinese coper when faced with logic:
Did you hear it guys? The current 2A7/122B domination in Top Tier is not a problem,just aim better! Doesn’t matter if they can delete you faster than your aiming is

@艦むす愛好家

No armor

I would rephrase that,since i witnessed with my own eyes a Type 10 eating too many rounds from different nations and a Type 90 literally bouncing 3 M829A2 on the UFP