The results are the same with the M774: being unable to confront any frontal turret at medium to long distances, something you’ll find pretty frequently
And that Light Tank (since the M1128 is labeled as such) has 2+ gen thermals,a (mostly) crewless turret,scouting,UAV and better optics (and Commander sights),so it would not be dethroned by a simple addition
It’s one of the best at it’s tier.
It also has bad mobility, gun handling and no thermals.
It is because M1 shines in other areas.
M1128 is at 10.3 because of poor reload and mobility, not because it lacks protection.
5s reload with M900 would be much stronger than DM23 with 6s reload or 3BM42 with 7.1s reload.
Why isn’t M1 allowed to be the worst at something?
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While crewless unless it was fixed from the last time i used it. Breeching the cannon resulted in ammo det. It may have better thermals but the Abrams still has thermals added with better mobility. I would rather see this done in increments. That or you could give the M1 M900 jump it to 11.0 and then drop it back to 10.7 if needed.
It’s not
Only flanking,which surprise surprise every tank with a hint of speed can do that
A light tank with 97/13 kph of mobility is classed as “bad”. Nice ragebait
It’s countered by the lack of protection,since the cheeks can’t tank those rounds
Because at 9.0+ you get sniping maps,maps in which flanking is not possible or easily achievable. The 2A4 can both flank and snipe without issues
It does not now,unless they use HE,in that case you get overpressured, but it’s something that can be avoided
The Stryker has better mobility,at least regarding forward speed
M774 is way worse than the other ammo at the BR. M833 is still worse but is more competitive. It would still literally have the worst ammo for a MBT at the BR AFAIK.
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I propose to lower the Ariete to 5.7
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Better, move the Ariete to 2.7
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I was talking about metrics like mobility gun handling reload speed gun depression…
Check HP/t and then come back.
It’s probably one of the slowest vehicles at BR.
2A4 has worse armor than M1. Cheeks can take DM23.
So can M1.
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You still haven’t answered my question.
That dude isn’t asking for M833, he wants M900.
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Then most of the 12.0 vehicle gonna reduce BR to 10.0, because their armour can’t hold the 152mm APFSDS 🤣🤣🤣
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Ok so deny M900 and say M833 is an acceptable buff, it does not matter.
So how about we locate every tank’s weakest point and buff it, just for reasons. Doesn’t make sense to do so though.
T-tanks have worst gun handling, let’s just buff it slightly, shall we?
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What are you even talking about
2A4 has similar handling
2A4 has same depression
Doesn’t matter,it still has a better speed than the Abrams since well, it’s a light tank. 18.7 hp/t vs. 27.3 is not a huge difference,in fact.
The Abrams’ cheeks have between 380 and 400mm of protection against KE,the 2A4 has between 420 to 800
At this point,i’m thinking you don’t know what you are talking about
Tell me if you’re able to snipe a 11.7 on the front from 900+ metres with 774,i’m curious
You want to buff M1s ammo because it’s the worst at it’s tier.
Same could be said for gun handling of T-tanks, so why not buff that as well?
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Do you even play the game ?
Check again.
2A4 can eat M774 as easily as M1 can eat DM23.
Yes, so can you.
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I want to buff the m1’s ammo because the m1, despite people overrating the shit out of it, is not actually as good as ppl think. It just needs more competitive ammo to fix this. M833 is not even going to change how it compares to other tanks…
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No sorry i only play the game since 2015 and have almost any Abrams as well as the Stryker :(
😐😐😐
Since when, exactly? And don’t ask me to check Protection Analysis,since it is not a proper tool to use
You can’t
11.7 tanks have over 500mm+ of KE protection,and people are smart enough to hide their weakspot.
At around 1km,the M774 pens 350mm point blank,so tell me:when will you stop lying?
Don’t tell me you think M1 suffers at 10.7 ?
Slightly buffing gun handling of T-tanks wouldn’t either, but you don’t see me supporting it.
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You are comparing the best conventional kinetic penetrator in the game (that only one currently hard to obtain tank is equipped with) to the Abrams. If you were being fair you would use that same shell against soviet vehicles or even more fair just use 3bm42 as that is the Soviet standard at 10.0, not the object 292’s apfsds.
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