okay can we give ariete P 5s reload then? coupled with it’s 120mm dm33 round
also can we give french 100mm/120mm 7.7 tanks their HISTORICAL penetration, being able to reliably penetrate T-54/55 and IS-3’s in the UFP respectively? i mean surely thats really balanced for already incredible vehicles at 7.7 amirite
and also, m1 with m900 would NOT stay at 10.7
DM23 will struggle with M1’s cheeks while both will bounce from UFP.
Ariete P and “amazing vehicle” in the same sentence is very,VERY funny
I see almost no one playing that vehicle so yes,why not. They’re almost the only one left in NATO that don’t have a 5s reload
And yes,the same could be applied to French vehicles as well,since the constant raise in BR on things such as the 25t without proper fixing is just useless
Why not?lol the basic Abrams has little to no survivability at its current BR,but lowering its BR even to 10.3/10.0 is harmful for 9.0/9.3 vehicles
I’d prefer leaving it at 10.7 with its bad protection but give it a tool to fight the 10.7-11.7 range
The basic Abrams is laughable as a vehicle
? Just because nobody plays the vehicle, doesn’t mean it’s bad. And I played it enough to say that it’s good.
The 25t raise in BR could’ve been unnecesarry, yes, but currently, 7.7 french vehicles are some of the best at this br. France doesn’t suffer, lmao, and i’m a france main.
Clear Russian propagandist who wants to ruin Americas lineups and thinks the T-72B is even close to the Abrams in performance.
The Abrams is either the best or 2nd best vehicle at 10.7, depending on if you prefer the Leopard 2 or not
People don’t play the vehicle because it is bad. Why playing through the Ariete line when you have the Hungarian line with the 2A4 and the 2A7HU and 2 light tank lines with the Centauros and the Freccia?
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-Tier VIII on US ground and Tier II on Russian ground
Yep,i am definitely a Russian Propagandists
You’re either ragebaiting or you seriously are projecting your bias onto me
? Because Ariete P is genuinely a good vehicle? Yes, it’s a side-grade to Leopard 2a4. In turn for sacrificing armor, you get an EXTREMELY good round for 10.7, dm33.
Yes, other Arietes aren’t great, but that doesn’t mean that ARIETE P in particular is bad. Also, the term ‘underrated’ exists.
No, I’m not rage baiting because the logic you are using matches what someone who hates America would say.
-You want the M1 moved to a BR (11.3) where it will just be worse than the IPM1, and it would leave the rather good 10.7 lineup without an MBT.
-You think that the T-72B is somehow good compared to the M1, when it is far inferior and the only positive is the modern round that holds it up.
If you aren’t a Russian propagandist, then I suggest you play some other countries and get some experience with their vehicles. The grass is always greener.
Explain to me why the addition of the M900 would bring the M1 closer to the M1A1 (better armor and lethality) and the IPM1 (better armor,same lethality) by jumping not one but two entire BR steps
It’s honestly baffling how you’d prefer to cover your eyes ignoring that the M1 is literally the worst Abrams in the game (even the 120S is better,and it’s half M60) instead of doing the only thing reasonable enough to help resolve the problem (because lowering the BR will result in many people angry because a 10.0/10.3 vehicle stomps 9.0/9.3)
It has better protection (less weak spots and therefore better to hide them) compared to the M1 and,despite having a longer reload (and an autoloader module) it has a fantastic shell as its BR capable of defending itself
Every time i hear this story,i always hear the same people saying “eugh the M774 is perfect for 10.7 so the Abrams doesn’t need balance”,and those are the same people that haven’t touched the M1 in ages and ignore how fighting 11.7 with the M774 is (spoiler:you can’t do that)
So i’d suggest you this:bring the Abrams to 11.7 (so you’ll experience the uptiers on 10.7 but on a much more frequent basis) and tell me if you can manage to get good results with the Abrams
It would be possible just do corner flanking not trying to get in a fight.
To be honest M900 is already at 10.3 with the 1128. Now couple that with a 5 second reload you don’t have a 10.7 vehicle any more. But M833 should be a reasonable add to the M1 while leaving it at its br. Maybe with m833 the m1 could go down to 10.3 idk
This sentence deletes itself
The M900 is already inside the 1128,but the 1128 is at
10.3 and not over 10.7? Because it lacks the protection to withstand even autocannons,so the lethality outmatches the protection
The base Abrams lacks the protection,so that needs to be outmatched by lethality. Lethality in this case equals to M900. Corner flanking is not a useful tactic in EVERY map,so you need a round that is good both for close-range and for long-range,and the M900 is the answer.
Because the 1128 has a 7.5 second reload not 5.
The Abrams does not have a natural 5s reload.
Stock reload is 6.5s,which is reduced to 5.8 with max command and reload skill,≈5.3 with Expert Crew (which costs SL) and then Ace Crew (which costs GE,unless you want to grind hundreds of thousands of XP)brings it to 5s
Many people stops at Expert Crew,so the 5s reload argument is not valid,and the same applies to every tank with manual reload
Is the stock reload still faster that other tanks?Yes
Is it still meaningful?no
You don’t look at stock. You have to look at potential. If you have an ace crew putting M900 on an m1 at 10.3 would be insane.
My point stands the m1 could go down but not if it receives M900. It could possibly receive M833.
Where are the thermals and 1500HP engine?
The M1 is at 10.7,i never said to give it M900 AND bring it down to 10.3. i’ve said to give it M900,stop.
M1 at 10.0/10.3 means to revive the OG Abrams experience,and it was simply impossible to bear for anyone that faced them
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