I am Complaining about the J-7D and disagree with its BR reduction

Cool, by that logic, A-10s should be 11.3-11.7 since AIM 9Ls are constantly seen at 9.3-9.7

Cool story needs more dragons.

You already brought this up with AllNationEnjoyer in this thread.

You are either trolling or talking out your ass and have contributed nothing rational to the discussion

Therefor i will Ignore you from now on good day

Shouldn’t be same BR as 21bis.

No napalms (yes I’m using gaijin logic, but it does reduces SL earning which is gaijins metric for balancing)
Moreover, 4x missiles 2x napalms is way better to do at least something…sometimes you may not get a kill, that’s okay just bomb. No base? Just get AI attackera. Rarely you don’t get a base AND kill AND no attacker kill.
The J-7D has to sacrifice all missiles to bomb effectively (somewhat; considering iron bombs give more rewards)

4x missiles v 6x missiles
rear aspect vs all aspect (okay, no one can deny pl 5b are better than r60m in lock situation…the issue is getting a lock at all)
r60ms are just way more flexible, against AI targets, side attacks etc.

Bis airframe and engine are way better than J7D. Bis is way better at dogfighting and way more AB thrust

I played the bis and j7d for a fairly long time, and I can tell you the j7d is a bus compared to bis. There’s not much a j7d can do once a bis focused on them. Run away? Can’t. Dogfight? Ahaha that’s like Zero vs P-47, but without the speed

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I don’t even know who you are

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Ok but all you do on those two jet are base bombing. Also it is funny people who try to defend the J-7D at 10.7 with the weakest reason ever , can’t believe the Bis is being brought in as if the thing is broken at 11.0 when arguably it is on par with the J-7D and the F-5C which are under it 0.3 br. And can you please stop bringing the strike aircraft in especially the subsonic one

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yall should stop fighting and bite OP ass. he’s an F-5C spammer.

will you stop using Gaijin’s bullshit logic for defend your own plane?
You are bringing the worst claim for defence J-7D.

As a joke, in Gaijin’s ridiculous logic
Tornado ADV should be a reserve plane as long as it can’t bomb.


J-7D is a ‘slightly’ undertiered plane, but it just can’t go up thanks to bullshitness compression thanks to higher ranks.

J-7D shouldn’t clap jets in 9.7 with that ridiculous PL-5B.
Even if we think about Mirage IIIE with 2x Magic 1 (original PL-8), it is ridiculous that we keeps J-7D on 10.7

“But J-7D flies like a brick!”
sounds like
“But F-5C has shitty AIM-9E!!!”

“But J-7D can’t bomb because it has no napalm!”
also sounds like
“F-5C can’t bomb because it is too slow!”

Both of those shouldn’t stay 10.7br if we only see downtier.

But we just can’t send those things up directly if we see an uptier.
Thanks to Gaijin, who always keeps compression as hell.
Seeing F-4S with J-7D will be same ridiculous level as seeing J-7D with Jaguar GR.1. :/

Gaijin will never gonna fix these things unless the stats of J-7D goes sky-high
because selling premium jets are juicy profits.
And it will not gonna happen, thanks to the J-7D bomber with no missiles like @TIGER_TANK_1 exists and decreasing average reward netting at best.
(As long as J-7D’s 1.5t payload isn’t enough to kill a single base, and it need to sacrifice all 4 pylons, there is no way that J-7D gets enough stats for getting nerf)

If Gaijin keeps ridiculous ‘average reward netting’ for balancing, I think further buff on either J-7D/F-5C down to 10.3 might have a higher chance than going up to 11.0. :|

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What does any of this have to do with glitched engine temps that havent been fixed for 3 years? even so, F-5 does not struggle at avoiding radar missiles

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We also need to say that no F-5 faces Fox-3 (ARH) missiles in ARB unless we include F-20 as super F-5. XD

I dont care about that, I care that if an airplane is not modeled correctly, needs to be fixed, we have been like this for years with F-5´s engines

If you want to play the J-7D as bad as humanly possible it is up to you, leave the discussion of the actual performance of the plane to those that dont crash bombing bases, thank you.

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