Why am I complaining about the J-7D and disagree with its BR placement… Because a forum moderator explained the rules and said I was allowed to complain about it and disagree about its BR placement without breaking the rules and well thats a good enough reason for me what about others?
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here b4 locked
Eh, its fine. Its basically a mig-21 with 4x rear-aspect IR missiles. With a Mig-21 with 6x All-aspect IR Missiles only at 11.0. Its probably the right placement. Sure they can be annoying to deal with at times, but there are far more powerful and annoying aircraft at the same BR and even below
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It’s not. It overperforms heavily at 10.7 due to the missile load.
It’s a MiG-21 with PL-5Bs to be specific. You trying to label them as simply “rear aspect IR” is disingenuous and misleading. They are EXTREMELY powerful at 10.7.
Not how that works. The 21bis at 11.0 has R-60Ms which fun fact, aren’t even better than PL-5Bs to begin with. The PL-5B is MILES BETTER in ANY ASPECT that isn’t front, where it can’t be used. The R-60M CAN be used here, but it’s the only niche it has over PL-5B.
Name them. You’d be wrong.
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Its the strongest 10.7 i can think off, his br reduction was uncalled
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J35XS at 10.3
F-5C at 10.7 or F-5E at 11.0 (also the F-5A(G) now too)
F-8E at 10.7
Never had an issue dealing with J-7Ds in the Sea harrier FRS1e in SB. I find the SU-17s, Su-22s and Mig-21BIS that just spam R-60Ms at you far more annoying than the J-7D.
Annoying=F-5C/A (especially the ROCAF one)
More undertiered relative to what they face=Mig-21MF/SMT, J35XS, and the F-8U.
It still should be 11.0 because that missile loadout on a decent platform at that BR is criminal
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Sometimes even on front aspect (little old video)
Dogwater
You can just outrun them
Only 2 Magic 1
Idk about sb, but in RB is the strongest one
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In sub-sonic aircraft? Which is basically what I alwasy face them in
Still a supersonic with 6x Aim-9Js at 10.3 with flares
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Makes no sense, has nothing over J7D besides 2 extra (but far worse) missiles and AOA ability.
Equally problematic for different reasons. Both don’t belong this low in BR.
F-5E is only 11.0 because F-5C is 10.7 and the japan F5 is 11.3
Not better
RB thread…
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Nono, i am talking J-7D vs those planes you said
Oh, eh… Maybe, I still think there are far more criminal cases of aircraft being under or over BRed than the J-7D.
As I told him, none of these are better
Nah don’t go too far in the other direction. J35XS at 10.3 is very good overall besides need to conserve flares
That is not F-8E at 10.7
Hmm… idk, compared to the J-7D… No RWR, 12 flares, abysmal FM…
wasnt the E the french one?
F-8E is used by both nations. The one in reference is the F-8E (USA) 10.7. The French one is 10.0.
ah mb then
It should also be 10.7 because 6 decent missiles at 10.3 is a bit too much.
Arguably worse because of the worse missile loadout.
4 vs 4?
Well depends if you also view the F-5A(G) on par with the F-5E. Imo the 2 9L or niche. Id rather have a EEGS and better flight performance but the snails gotta snail with compression. The F-5A flight model doesn’t belong higher than 11.0, it can but id rather it doesn’t since it just lacks the engine power.