Ok but all you do on those two jet are base bombing. Also it is funny people who try to defend the J-7D at 10.7 with the weakest reason ever , can’t believe the Bis is being brought in as if the thing is broken at 11.0 when arguably it is on par with the J-7D and the F-5C which are under it 0.3 br. And can you please stop bringing the strike aircraft in especially the subsonic one
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will you stop using Gaijin’s bullshit logic for defend your own plane?
You are bringing the worst claim for defence J-7D.
As a joke, in Gaijin’s ridiculous logic
Tornado ADV should be a reserve plane as long as it can’t bomb.
J-7D is a ‘slightly’ undertiered plane, but it just can’t go up thanks to bullshitness compression thanks to higher ranks.
J-7D shouldn’t clap jets in 9.7 with that ridiculous PL-5B.
Even if we think about Mirage IIIE with 2x Magic 1 (original PL-8), it is ridiculous that we keeps J-7D on 10.7
“But J-7D flies like a brick!”
sounds like
“But F-5C has shitty AIM-9E!!!”
“But J-7D can’t bomb because it has no napalm!”
also sounds like
“F-5C can’t bomb because it is too slow!”
Both of those shouldn’t stay 10.7br if we only see downtier.
But we just can’t send those things up directly if we see an uptier.
Thanks to Gaijin, who always keeps compression as hell.
Seeing F-4S with J-7D will be same ridiculous level as seeing J-7D with Jaguar GR.1. :/
Gaijin will never gonna fix these things unless the stats of J-7D goes sky-high
because selling premium jets are juicy profits.
And it will not gonna happen, thanks to the J-7D bomber with no missiles like @TIGER_TANK_1 exists and decreasing average reward netting at best.
(As long as J-7D’s 1.5t payload isn’t enough to kill a single base, and it need to sacrifice all 4 pylons, there is no way that J-7D gets enough stats for getting nerf)
If Gaijin keeps ridiculous ‘average reward netting’ for balancing, I think further buff on either J-7D/F-5C down to 10.3 might have a higher chance than going up to 11.0. :|
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What does any of this have to do with glitched engine temps that havent been fixed for 3 years? even so, F-5 does not struggle at avoiding radar missiles
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We also need to say that no F-5 faces Fox-3 (ARH) missiles in ARB unless we include F-20 as super F-5. XD
I dont care about that, I care that if an airplane is not modeled correctly, needs to be fixed, we have been like this for years with F-5´s engines
If you want to play the J-7D as bad as humanly possible it is up to you, leave the discussion of the actual performance of the plane to those that dont crash bombing bases, thank you.
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Such a goofy thing to say
kinda late to the party…, and I kinda agree since the pl5b is better than the r60…
I mean, It’s arguably easier to side aspect high an R60 shot. and that angle is very optimal.
Ok so any chance for the J-7D and possibly other broken premium to move up. Since this is a thread about J-7D.
It is almost end of 2025 and J-7D still dominate basically every battle the thing get a slight down tier or just the entire 11.0-9.7. There are so many player being shit in every single other jet, even some that people claim OP(Like 21bis cause muh all aspect), still somehow do actually almost average in the thing. Negative in everything else but only positive in the J-7D.
Forget about the J35XS, when J-7D is literally one of the best if not the best premium at it rank.
The fact that A-5C remains at the same BR as this thing is wild.
Glorified mig 19 with 2 weak missiles vs mig-21MF flight model with 4 11.3 missiles, kinda insane if you ask me, about time for it to go up to 11.0
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Is the J-7D in the room with you now?
I had more but 5 pics max.
Looks like you are just crying for no.good reason…
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I aint reading all that , better start yapping about why J-7D is balanced at 10.7 or clam up
Not much to read here… winrate and kill/spawn of the J7D are in line with other 10.7 planes.
—> balanced
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I could do the same ,here some other minor nation vehicle throwing in as well to help with your cause.
It still does not change the fact that J-7D when putting on the same scale with all of the fighter are better , leaving out the AAM, which are very good for it BR despite being non all aspect. We can be here with stats from wherever you want all day and nothing will be done. J-7D is still OP at it current BR. The only thing stopping it from being at 11.0 (which it can and be completely fine) is it being a premium and knuckle dragger defending it cause the thing being one of their most played jet
It’s just a mig21 with good missiles but it’s not hard to counter.
It’s easy to play, but despite that it’s not more dangerous than a F5C.
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The game is balanced with stats
The jets you list. 2 are better, one worse. The rest bombers…
J7D is exactly where it should be. Just because you get slapped by it doesnt mean it should be higher BR
“The game is balanced with stats” mofo when they found out that Gaijin balanced vehicle by SL and RP gain instead of actual stats. The whole convo from Apri 2 full of reason why it should move up and still got knuckler dragger defending it.
Using F-5C as an example is pathetic when it is def not in the same class as the J-7D. Not mentioning using one bad to cover for another is bad on it own. Doesn’t expect much from the J-7D defender anyway, no wonder game still have so much balancing problem
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SL is stats, IIRC its KD, SL and the rest. I dont agree with it at all amd it should be how it does vs other jets.
Which looking at the stats its 4- 5th best. With no real outlier…
Lets say it is the most OP.10.7 how else could it be proven? Its just opinions with no data to back the claim up