So, as far as I understand, people don’t give a shit about Italy, only Italians know their nation’s tanks, since there are people here who talk bullshit, thinking they know what they’re saying but it would be better shut up, but hey there are moderators who know even less than the users while having at their disposal people who know or inquire about the country in question.
But there’s no need to talk, this game is increasingly declining, the more we complain and the more we are ignored, the more we suggest and the more we are disappointed, so many tanks and so much dust, what’s the point of suggesting if they stay there or respond things that until yesterday were different.
I agree with my comrades, Italy is a nation that does not need Hungary and if it really must, then it must have originals and not fucking copies, look around, everyone is complaining about this continuous copy paste, should we imagine at this point that the developers are getting too old? Fired to make way for banknotes? Or because who are we to make ourselves heard? If not the community that runs this game in full, otherwise it’s just a bunch of code.
But hey, this is my personal opinion, you decide whether to accept it or not, but whatever your opinion is about me, I wipe my ass with your words. I don’t want Russian tanks in my country, as the Germans complain, the British too and so on. Eventually the nerve of someone greater than ourselves will be touched and eventually, only eventually will decisions be made.
Was it so difficult to listen to us users? Maybe create new nations and not create sub-nations? I speak as if War thunder is going in a bad direction right? Better to prepare for the worst now and fix the problem now than wait for it to escalate.
Gaijin just approved my suggestions a few days ago.
You can also find them on Google simply.
Send link.
Nevermind. I found it already:
No problem, I hadn’t opened the forum so I couldn’t post it.
angola
“More vehicle options hurt tech trees.” is such a silly take.
You’re not forced to play any specific vehicle.
Exactly. Honestly idk why they are complaining.
You should know what the Italian TT has to offer, before issuing judgments.
Totally agree.
Already do know what it offers.
Give me some examples.
the swiss was a mad move gotta agree but the argentine TAMS are high percentage german innovations hence they have no other place to be
Tell me, are any of these WW2 tanks in the Italian tech tree actually Italian?
-M3A3
-M24
-Pz.III N
-M4A4
-M18
-StuG III G
-M4 Tipo IC
-Sherman Vc
-M4 Hybrid
-Pz.IV G
-M26A1
-M26 “D.C.Ariete”
-M36B1
Ok, you talk like you know everything, patronize people for “completly lacking any knowledge” and “all you did was research for 10 minutes on Google”, then you proceed to say utter rubbish about Hungarian vehicles that you clearly didn’t research for more than 2 minutes on Google, then you push this nationally-pure only Italian tech tree idea (despite the fact that half of WW2 Italy is just American and German copy-paste), and you say Italy doesn’t need a Hungarian subtree, even though Italy has one of the lowest player counts and is one of the most dead tech trees with huge gaps, lacking SPAAGs, poor WW2 vehicles where most people play the copy-pastes rather than the Italian tanks.
How can you seriously say stuff like that? Italy is in a poor state, and the Hungarian subtree will help fix some of it by giving Italy new players and popularity, can offer some SPAAGs, many WW2 tanks that aren’t copy-paste and don’t suck, and a few interesting things at higher tiers too (most of which Gaijin isn’t adding yet, but plans to later).
You are so Italian supremacist that you would rather try to find some never-before-seen picture of Italian Tigers, even though most people say Italy didn’t even operate Tigers but only trained on some, instead of allowing Hungarian Tigers into the Italian TT, which would do the exact same thing, but there is much more evidence that Hungary actually had 13-15 Tigers and actually used them. Then you complain about Soviet junk in the Italian TT, while literally advocating for a captured KV-1 (which I don’t think anyone actually wants). And a captured Churchill? Germany already has a captured Churchill, why give Italy one too? Captured vehicles are stupid additions anyways.
Then you reveal your hypocrisy when you clearly know nothing about the Hungarian TAS (it’s called 44M Tas btw). The 44M Tas had a fully built and working hull, a completed gun and gun sights, and the turret was being built when the 44M Tas was destroyed in a bombing raid. That’s easily 70% complete, while you seem to think the Tas was nowhere near being even 50% complete. The gun sights of the 44M Tas survived and are kept in a museum to this day, there are plenty of images of the scale mockup and the original blueprints, etc., don’t even try to discredit the 44M Tas and say it isn’t real or some crap. And it’s ironic that you want a heavy tank for Italy that isn’t copy-paste, then when one is presented to you (the 44M Tas), you immediately reject it on false reasons, likely because it isn’t Italian.
Then you do this behaviour again by rejecting what you wanted all along (a good top tier MBT and SPAAGs) because they are Hungarian and not Italian. Both the Leopard 2A7 HU and Nimrod (as well as other SPAAGs that Hungary could get that aren’t copy-paste) could be easily added to War Thunder soon and would help fix these problems, but again you don’t want them. You’d rather wait who knows how many years for Italy to buy a Leopard variant that is too modern for this game, just to wait even more years until Gaijin eventually decides to add the Italian Leopard 2A8, just because it’s Italian, and you don’t want a simpler Hungarian alternative. Then you say the iconic Nimrod is unnecessary and mention some irrelevant crap nobody has ever heard of or will ever model in War Thunder.
And you finish off by saying more rubbish about the vehicles in the Hungarian subtree: yes the Csaba is overtiered, that doesn’t mean it’s not needed. The Hungarian Turan tanks are pretty equivalent to German panzers and much better than any Italian tank of WW2, sorry to burst your supremacist bubble, but Hungary could make better tanks in WW2 than Italy. Seriously tell me what 3.7 Italian tank is better than the Turan III, or what 2.3 Italian tank is better than the Turan I? Why would Italy not need these? Then you slander the Zrinyi II for not having AP rounds and you say it’s worse than the Semoventes, when the Zrinyi II is literally better than any Semovente at its tier and even some that are higher tier, the Zrinyi II’s HEAT at 2.7 can pen 120 mm, while your shitty 3.3 Semovente can only pen 100 mm! Not to mention the Zrinyi II has better armour and reverse mobility, as well as smokes. But sure, Semoventes are better and Italy doesn’t need Zrinyis… btw most of Hungary’s copy-paste can be replaced with something unique, but sure, call it an entirely copy-paste tree that ruins Italy.
You just seem blinded by arrogance and your Italian superiority complex, so you just dismiss everything helpful that isn’t Italian. I don’t think you should speak for Italy mains because most of the ones I’ve spoken to (including myself) are happy to get a Hungarian subtree.
P26/40
M11/39
M13/40
M14/41
M15/42
M16/43
L6/40
L3/33 CC
L40 da 47/32
This vehicles are italian or american?
Nationalism, and its why there is no point even bothering to try to talk to him
Can you read?