Ok, let me break down this vieled attempt at gaining support for a tank only mode.
Noone advocates for more aircraft in these forums. If you’ve been here more than a day you’ll know that CAS threads calling for changes to CAS (SP increases, limits to number per game, outright removal) are a constant thing. Most of the people who enjoy ground battles as they are now will get attacked because they like CAS in it’s current state.
Noone really says that SPAA are effective in these forums. See #1 for the reason why, hate CAS existence then always say the ground counter is awful, to hard to use, not enough rewards, ect. Some do advocate for them (I think SPAA at 7.7+ are quite effective against the average pilots, but not experienced ones), but usually that is met with attacks because “all the SPAA are horrible at shooting down planes”.
This fine player doesn’t want more planes in mixed to make it better for SPAA, he wants a tank only mode so he doesn’t have to deal with aircraft. Don’t believe me? Here’s this: Genuine question for CAS players: How would a Tank Only mode negatively affect you personally
Would you like to explain that post that completely contradicts the premise of this post? One doesn’t usually go from hating CAS to advocating a way to create more. This post is an attempt to sway people who enjoy SPAA play to vote in favor of tank only because there is no hope of tank only ground happening because the game is combined arms focused.
OK, I’m not even reading past the first sentence. Until you get it through your skull that he wants to not waste his time by pulling SPAA and having nothing to shoot at, not have planes removed, stop wasting every bodies time. How about you read my actual suggestions for implementing CAS in a balanced manner and offer your opinions on that, rather than assuming I just want CAS removed entirely.
An except from that post I linked. He litterally says he wants a tank only mode. People who want a tank only mode don’t care about SPAA performance against aircraft.
Ok, but I am basing my responses off the initial post in this thread, if he is advocating for tanks only else where I haven’t seen it and don’t have time to track down his forum history. Sorry if I came off as aggressive, but I see Gaijin calls it “combined arms” to blow off the issues with CAS in ground so much my eyes just glaze over when I see it at this point
I get it, thats why I linked the post. I tracked down the history so you didn’t have to because I am aware of it.
I have read your ideas, and D seems like a pretty interesting one that would provide interesting counterplay opportunities for SPAA and CAS/CAP. I find the dogfighting in ground more interesting because of the lack of spotting mechanic and I think dedicated air slots in ground would be an interesting way to get that type of gameplay without going to Sim and the full-real controls.
Thanks, believe it or not I actually put a bit of thought into those, but I cant actually take full credit for D… I saw some one demanding that Gaijin allow CAS to spawn straight into games with full weapons load out and was horrified… then I thought about it a bit realized could actually be decent idea… if its actually implemented in a controlled and reasonable manner, D is my idea of how you could do that. Also I apologize for being so hostile, I am actually reading what you linked before and I see what you mean. I had assumed you meant my initial reply to you was at least part of the “Veiled attempt at tank only mode” I mostly agree with the 7.7 SPAAs, but I think they fall off again at top ranks as most planes can just after burn into their vertical dead zone, and then there is the A6E TRAM… I wasn’t going to get into the CAS SPAA balance issue as that didn’t seem relevant to the overall issue, which is just too many planes at once.
The ones STOPPING a TO mode are the ones you should ask.
We call them Gaijin.
They have a Suggestion page to make Suggestions.
No one has EVER made a Suggestion (or at least shown one that wasn’t rejected immediately). The only suggestion ever made was seperate from a TO but asking for TO events (and the test they made did not work out apparently).
You are right, on paper everyone wins with more modes, more variety, all great.
So with that in mind take the question to Gaijin. They answered once already, so if you want a different one… Suggestion. Or do people believe their requests should circumvent asking?
Only Gaijin know why this amazing idea of adding a new mode is not desirable (other players guess, that is it, no one knows what the Devs think).
So yes, ask away, but I am confused why people never ask Gaijin (apart from asking in a random survey and expecting a personal response).
Or keep asking random players who have no influence on new modes being added or not.
Is this the official TO thread now? Last two were abandoned.
In every single CAS thread I stated I want both a Tank Only and and Mixed Mode and that I would play both. I want a separate mode for when I don’t want to deal with planes. Why do you keep lying all the time?