Keep it the way it is just balance it some way. It can be done We have the technology.
I LOLed.
Yes for the 10th time now: GRB gets renamed to Mixed RB and a new Tank RB is created.
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They could’ve gotten accepted into service if the country wanted to. The Ho-Ri Production wasn’t ready. I’m not against adding tanks like this yet it contradicts Gaijins statement about historical accuracy which should be changed.
It’s not about historical accuracy on itself. It’s about that they lied about HA so you shouldn’t take everything they say serious.
Nobody wants to remove planes.
Nobody wants to remove planes.
Nobody wants to remove planes.
Nobody wants to remove planes.
Nobody wants to remove planes.
Nobody wants to remove planes.
Nobody wants to remove planes.
Nobody wants to remove planes.
The point of this thread is to show that with a dedicated Mixed mode people who want to spawn planes would play that mode so SPAA would be guaranteed to see planes in match.
The same BR they are now. They would be effective in the Combined arms Mixed RB mode.
I mean technically speaking, if you took aircraft out of ground battles that wouldn’t be historically accurate. Aircraft have always and will always play a role in ground combat. But that’s just my take :)
I have always argued for gameplay over historical accuracy.
They would still be effective in Mixed RB. It’s your choice what mode you would play. Third person among many thing aren’t realistic either yet they are present in the “realistic” mode.
I was just pointing out that aircraft in ground battles are historically accurate, that’s all
So are infantry, logistics and mechanical breakdown yet WT doesn’t take those into consideration.
There’s just as much historical accuracy in tank-only combat throughout the past Century, if not more. Some of the biggest tank battles had zero aircraft involved, pilots throughout history are infamous for overstating their damage done to ground forces whenever they are involved, and the current war in Ukraine proves once again that the mere existence of SPAA, or just blokes with MANPADS, is often enough to stop aircraft from taking off in the first place - With vehicles represented in War Thunder no less.
Completely separate note, but can we get one single CAS debate without more straw-men than a scarecrow factory? Tank-only =/= remove combined arms. And OP isn’t wrong that SPAA would massively benefit from a separate dedicated combined arms mode where they’ve got more targets.
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Well I was trying to say on the topic of aircraft in ground battles
Wehraboo believes this comment explains why SPAA’s should go down so let me break it down very quickly.
I fail to see how this has anything to do with SPAA’s aside from you saying you want to play them which you can, so nothing is stopping you from doing so.
2 game modes don’t explain at all why you want it separated. It only shows you are using the idea as a scapegoat so that a separate tank gamemode is made, you don’t care for SPAAs or planes.
10 planes that happen throughout the entire battle. If you took a moment and thought about why your entire team is being bombed or strafed perhaps it’s because a certain class or 2 aren’t doing their job and leading their shots.
To put it simply if your team is unable to hit an enemy aircraft when it is in range, then they are firing at something too far away, not leading their shots aka shooting straight at it rather than far in front and slightly above or below the front of the aircraft. Which is as I stated called leading your shots.
Now Plane spam is most certainly an issue however unless the point system is increased just not to some obscured degree this is what we have to deal with.
So telling gaijin that we are okay with vehicles being added that will not have a use in certain gamemodes that you can take them in to.
I never said that.
You fail to understand a lot of things.
And get 0 kills the whole game because the enemy didn’t spawn planes.
Tank mode = no planes
Mixed mode = many planes
right now = sometimes no planes/sometimes many planes
I play both.
By the way you’re describing this it looks like projection to me.
(I checked and I was right)
THIS would make SPAA more useless. Keeping the points the way they are now and just creating a new mode is better.
Some serious cognitive delusion in the OP!!
If this is your only contribution to the argument you can fuck off.
Also this is a RB thread you’re an arcade player.
Why was this flagged?
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Absolutely amazing gameplay. Only 3 players spawned a plane the rest were tank only. If I wanted to see planes every time I could play the Mixed mode so I’m guaranteed the people actually want to play aircraft.
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Monsieur! In one game session I shoot down from 24 to 152 planes. There are planes. You just need patience.