if you had read the devlog you would know that it is a bug and that the premium F18 will be 12.7, which is way undertier when you see that they have added a premium F16 with only shitty ir missile at the same BR.
We talking about all Hornets since all of them overBRed.
i mean if they reduce the 120 count on the 14.0 one sure because 10 120s at a lower br would not be fun
I find this a bigger joke tbf
Mind you that they could give it AIM-9Li
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What the point of these 120’s if you cant effectively use it due to your speed limits?
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its an A-10, its stupidly slow. way slower than a harrier.
and having the option to run 9M still is going to affect its BR. i do agree its by far not the best, but still shouldnt be 12.7. with FM buffs its justified 13.0, and with BOL it would be solid
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how fast can it go right now? (i dont have it in dev)
I missed it. If so - good then.
About 1200-1300 kmh effective limit right now. Next it’s speeding up veeeeeeery slow.
12.0? Hell no.
The F-4S, J and ESPECIALLY the FGR.2 and FG.1 do not need another fucking modern jet with better missiles to bully them into oblivion in uptiers.
Don’t get me wrong, the F-4S is a great plane with great missiles but it makes no sense having it at the same BR as something with a infinitely better airframe and the exact same missiles but both 500 times better.
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it should stay atleast above 13.0 12.7 and lower is insane for the 14.0 one
I don’t think the air BRs are bad, to be honest. 14.0 might be a little high, but the C late is either overperforming or just way better than expected, so with 10 AMRAAMs it is possible it will be completely fine.
It’s the GRB BRs that concern me. The A doesn’t have the weapons to justify 12.0, 11.7 is much more appropriate; the C early might also be a bit lightly armed for 12.3 - it just can’t carry enough ordnance to compete in a meta that requires saturation to get through the Pantsir umbrella. These things can be changed later, of course, but the Hornet is too late to be relevant in some of these ways, and BR should reflect that.
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But very bad retention and worse flight model.
worse missiles (R-77) compared to AIM-120s. Lacks HMD to make use of that high-g overload missiles.
You didn’t even read that full comment did you? just repeating the same points over and over like a parrot lol.
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This guy is either trolling or is just confidently dumb lol.
Mig-29 is way better than a Mig-21 bison in flight performance department. It gets better SARH missiles, more IR missiles and this guy somehow is convinced that it should be same BR as Mig-21 bison lol.
What you need is BR decompression. Not lowering the BR of every single plane you can think of.
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Most of the kills happens up to 20km range, son not much difference between missiles.
BVR kills even with 120’s requiers fast acceleration with good max speed wich Hornter really lack so also not much matter that it have better missile
for the most part yes but the Tomcats are vastly more effective aircraft and they start at 12.7. Even with the flight model changes on dev the harriers arent even close
I dont saw they’re same? Ofc. 29G is better. But it’s anyway not desereve 13.0 grave. 12.7 would be fine (bison 12.3)
they are also much more limited in armament and AWG-9 is less sophisticated than Blue Vixen
even at 12.7, F-14A could use modeled RIO and AIM-9L
Get rid of a few AMRAAMs and then it can go down, but it currently has the 2nd most amount of missiles at top tier and shouldn’t go down with 10 amraams
its barely mach breaking with 10 amraam. they arent going nearly as far as on a EFT