False. Only area where the AIM-120 lacks is in dogfight ranges. AIM-120 is still more potent than R-77s in sub 20km ranges due to better energy in scenarios like if the target decides to go cold.
False. You just can’t effectively engage in missile jousting in early games against EFTs and F-15Es but it still a very capable BVR platform with very good energy management of the AMRAAM and supersonic platform.
The FA2 has a better missile I agree. The FA2 can only carry 4 of them at the cost of its 30mm guns, its also subsonic so it trapped as a multipathing advantage taker fighter rather than the BVR monster the tomcat is with 6 phoenix missiles and two sidewinders. Double the AAMs more than compensates for less good individual pieces of ordinance
We told you this before the hornet came, if you bring the full loadout with fuel then you will be slow, however in no world should 10 Fox-3s be below 14.0, regardless of FM
People like Lulzwhat appear to be allergic to the term “BR decompression”. Including the fine lads at Gaijin. “Fine” as in thrown into SCP-914 on the Fine setting.
That’s what usually happens when you make a loadout where you use every single piece of armament. The F-111s are some of the fastest planes in-game, but the slowest flying buses in the world if all bombs/missiles are equipped. It’s called physics and “making a good loadout”.
As i said above - not much deal how many missiles you have if you cant effectively use it.
the 9M is just so much better than 9H, even 9L on F-14B, and the AIM-120 are better than AIM-54 most of the time. that makes up for less missiles total. it also has wayy more countermeasures, even accounting for BOL being way worse than it should be
As long as you can reach the middle of the map, and as long as they are AMRAAMs then you still have an aircraft capable of launching 2 Fox-3s, per target, 5 times (AKA a free ACE)
when the whole argument of ppl saying it should be 14.0 revolves around it carrying 10 AMRAAM, the actual effects of it on the aircraft should be considered
I believe someone gajin decompression max battle rating to 14.3 for fighter aircraft top tier before add the early 5th gen infrared Air-to-Air Missile and AIM-120C-5 for nato fighter aircraft, but after major update “Hornet’s Sting”
You can only carry one 9m per pilon with BOL so its a worse pick over the spaamraam every time.
yea but tomcat gets more of them which overcompensates compared to the FA2s optimal loadout.
then there’s also the airframes ability to use the missile the best
the FA2 cant lob a missile 20km plus as its too slow and cant gain altitude before other super long range missile carriers have already thrown everything your way. the tomcat can without much thought at all
I wont dispute that 120 is better than 77, it’s obvious, but it anyway not x2/x3 difference.
If you face to face in no-escape zone, you just both 100% die if not chaff the missile on not go to the ground in time.
And in BVR you’ll be outrunned by 15E/Typhoon and even Su family with 77 just because they take firing position faster, have more speed, more altitude which means their missile catch you faster than yours catch him even if you both wont do any manuvers.
Being slow won’t stop the 10 AMRAAMs from being useful. Instead of a F-15E but 200 times better, it’s now essentially the 14.0 equivalent of a F-4S/J in the hands of someone who knows how to use it.
You gotta think of how people are gonna use certain loadouts.
true. but each will be conisderably less effective than on a typhoon F-15e or even F-16C since those go faster
14.0 Hornet will die much faster then you reach the middle.
with FM buff it can definitely be 13.0. with BOL fix, it will probably be a decent jet
If BOL did its thing right honestly id still think it probably ought to be a 12.7 aircraft. I love the plane as my normal way to play is inherently ratty but if I wanted to play in a less scraping my plane on the treetops manner its not viable at all
but fixing BOL would make it more viable in not scraping treetops
Hate to say it but that’s simply a you issue, avoiding early game fox-3s is hardly a chore and you have to actively ignore RWR pings to die to SPAMRAAM before reaching the middle
You are severely underestimating the capability of hornet and AMRAAMs. A R-77 launched at mach 1.2 will still have lesser range than the AMRAAM. Hornet is inferior compared to EFT and F-15Es but it makes up for it with higher missile count. Hornet is still supersonic. No plane is perfect, there are advantages and there are disadvantages. All factors considered, hornet is fine at 14.0.