Do you consider the GripenC UK/Mirage/J10 as bad aircraft?
Because they are support aircraft… These aircraft are not bad for me at least
They don’t have the same role as an F15, and they don’t have the same impact as an F15 or EF, but that doesn’t make them bad.
No, the gripen is fine. hardly a support fighter. one of the stronger 13.7 and one of the fighters clearly superior to hornet at a lower br. J10 is superior to hornet as well.
you are playing their game after all, you can always take a break, not play the f18, or find a new game if you don’t like how they are running their own game
“I have no argument so i tow the line.”
I have many things I don’t like about Gaijin’s balancing, I just don’t rant and rave about it like U.S mains do, and If I hate the state that my current favorite nation is in, I play a different nation, or just find a new game to play until the next update like a normal person
I’m not a u.s. main. I just think the hornet should be at a br its just going to wind up at anyway when it does poorly. U.S. mains will drive the wr down on that one and the finnish one will be brought down due to it’s own shortcomings.
I totally agree, make MiG29 14.0 and F-18 Hornet 12.0 8)
It has missile count, strong AOA, a solid radar, AMRAAMs as the ARH, which are still the golden standard, and more than any 13.7, it’s not a good idea to have it facing down into the 12.7 range.
Speed isn’t the only factor that matters in top tier though, people are isolating it as if the F-18C late is going to be immediately useless because it’s not as fast as a Strike Eagle.
Is it slow relative to other top tier jets? Yes, but does it still have enough speed to notch incoming ARHs? Yes, I will point out that the Rafale, which while being a “slow” jet on the deck where it wants to be due to the short range on the MICAs is still considered a competitive jet, and it only has 8 hardpoints and the radar has the IRST bug, the F-18C late will have 12 hardpoints, longer ranged missiles, better AOA.
My answer to the speed stuff is to try to stay low where notching is easier after you launch a few AMRAAMs off at the start of the match, since you absolutely have the speed/AOA to hit an early game notch, there’s basically nothing at top tier (13.3+) that can’t.
Gripen also is the same in all these categories except missile count at 13.7 though, while possibly having even better flight performance now with the funny button though
The FM difference between the two jets looks negligable, and I’d say 0.3 BR difference for having double the missile count is warranted.
Yeah but the Rafale actually has a useful kit for low and close range fighting. Better flight performance, better radar, better close range missiles.
9Ms and Aim 120s are viable for close range fighting, as long as you’re not trying to hit extreme last minute shots. And the radar for the Rafale on the current live server is definitely not better due to the IRST bug.
As for the FM, I’m not going to speak too much with the Hornet’s since it isn’t out yet and I haven’t played with it enough.
How does the hornet actually stack up against something like a EFT or Rafale? has anyone tested this out thoroughly? The only videos i’ve seen are of this one guy, and he the other guy he’s 1v1’ing seems to be terrible at the game
So you either want to use your flight model to fight up close, or you want to use your missiles at mid range, However you’ll be outperformed in either.
Having used both the Rafale radar on live and 18C late radar on the dev, I very much prefer the Rafale radar any day of the week.
It get’s clapped, any day of the week.
Tough to say since as you mentioned, 1v1s will not be indicative of RB match performance, so this will be discovered over the course of a month or so on live.
I’ve gotten the general gist of how bad it would be at BVR and the like, I just want to know if my OP jet is still OP.
I need to find someone with a f18 or su30 to 1v1 myself lol
The Aim 120 will be superior to the MICA at mid range engagements, The F-18’s FM is once again, unreleased, and I haven’t played with it enough to tell it’s similarities to the Rafale, I want to say it’s going to be Gripen Adjacent, although only time will tell.
Tbh I think people are overplaying it’s BVR performance, or lack therof, things like Gripens can still do BVR, and you don’t need to be a Strike Eagle to successfully hit early game launches, Now the radar is def unfinished so that is likely a contributing factor, so really we need to wait for the live server.