Yeah which means it can also still be nerfed. As of now I see as many people say that it’s overperforming as I see people saying that it’s underperforming.
It’s also hard to be a Gripen adjacent in the current meta when the Hornet flight performance is equal or likely even worse than the EFT/Rafale. The Gripen was something else meta wise because it’s flight performance was just miles better than it’s opposition.
It’s not that it can’t (especially with the amount of missles it has) its just that i assume that it wouldn’t match up against something like a Eurofighter, which can go mach 1.6, launch, and instantly notch out. And yes, even though something like a Gripen CAN BVR I’m assuming less effecient than more close quarters fighting.
As in adjacent to the Gripen, the one we have now, in terms of FM.
Or buffed, or both in some areas where realistic, when it is unfinished it is subject to change, and a live launch too weak or too strong might beget more changes as is typical.
Wouldn’t the Gripen FM be better than the hornet? Considering how they gave AOA keys to most toptiers
The hornet does fine against the majority of jets, it does not, I repeat DOES NOT, need to go toe to toe against the EFT or Rafale, you are pointing at the best 1v1 jets and saying “why doesn’t mine do that” while every other jet in your bracket is also losing against those jets in a 1v1. you have to take in account that 1v1s never happen unless you are in a 1v1 group or community, real games is missile spam the simulator, which the F18 has 12 of them so it’ll do fine I promise.
Oh, I don’t actually main USA air that much, I’m just a die hard Eurofighter fan who wants to know if EFT is still the best
It’s probably still the best due to the Su30Sm getting dunked on with nerfs throughout the dev server, it’s basically a Su27 again just with a 10 second window to turn more and bleed all it’s speed to slowly fall down to the ground, so in other words. it’s a cow like the other top tier Russian Jets
I knew the su30 FM was going to be bad, so the only thing i’m slightly concerned about are the r77-1, which, knock on wood, might be nerfed on release
I expected it to be better than the Su27 just because the thrust vectoring but the one thing it had going for it got nerfed, and knowing how much people are complaining about the 77-1, It will more than likely get nerfed, even though it’s already worse at BVR than the Aim120 is haha
that is really how it be sometimes lol
are they superior in what aspect?
FM mostly, but also the ability to bvr and dogfight.
Same Reason why the Su-30SM will not be the powerhouse everyone is expecting it to be lol
I’m expecting it to be decent at the absolute worst, even if there is zero noticeable improvement in the R-77-1’s seeker head over it’s predecessor and the current dev FM makes it to live, it shouldn’t be that bad.
Absolutely not. The Hornet BRs are fine. F18C Late being 14.0 is fine. Good FM, great avionics and it’s missile loadout justifies it’s Battle Rating. The BRs should not change.
This is joke?
That is honestly the real change from the 27SM, the FM really doesn’t matter THAT much anymore.
Not saying FM’s don’t matter, but the only aspect we have seen matter at top tier recently has been speed and acceleration,(See EF2K and 15E as reference) in which I don’t expect to see the 30SM outperform previous flankers that much.
Su-30SM on dev looks like it has weaker performance than the Su-27sm outside of having thrust Vectoring since it’s just too heavy with too little thrust to be good.
I’d say there’s a few other important factors in an FM though, structural speed limit (this matters for running on the deck), responsiveness/rolling (this matters for hitting a perfect notch).
