It will be fine at 14.0, the only negative is the speed.
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What does it really have over the other 14.0 though?
Missile count sure, but since it is slower they have less effective range
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nothing. F15c is objectively better at a lower br. F16c is better for cas and while it doesn’t carry as many missiles, its still far more capable in a bvr fight.
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Exactly why it should be 13.7
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It really shouldn’t be. It’s capable of launching 10 AIM120B’s, the BEST bvr missile. just because it’s not as good range as flying a stupidly fast jet such as the F15E, does not mean it needs to be a lower BR because one vehicle is under Br’d, the F15E should honestly be a 14.0 as well at least for ARB.
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f15e is 14.0 for air rb. What we really need is decompression. f18 is worse than a lot of 13.7 even with 10x aim120. Whats the point of those missiles if you die with 8-10 of them still on the plane?
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That is literally the gameplay of the Su27SM, you die with half of your R77’s still on the plane. Welcome to top tier when you’re not in a op U.S jet, not every single U.S plane can be handheld as much as you want it to be. if you want a lower BR’d F18, go play the premium version or the A.
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So you admit its not 14.0 material while just telling anyone who has an objective stance to “cope.” Interesting take. In what way is the f18c late even comparable to a eurofighter or rafale, let alone the f15e in the same tree. Moreover, why is the finnish f18c going to be 14.0 when it doesn’t even get the hmd or ground attack options?
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It’s comparable in it’s ordinance. WHICH is a deciding factor in the BR of something. Otherwise the Mig29 would be a lower br because that flight performance is abysmal compared to the F16s in it’s BR bracket, while having only 2 ER’s. This take is as bad as the people saying it needs to be a lower BR because the Su30sm is like 20 or however many years ahead of the F18. Which again is not the SU30Sm’s counter part. Idk why people made up this narrative in their head. They came out in the same update that is the only comparison. The Su30sm is meant to be a counter part to the eurofighters and F15E’s that have been curb stomping the Su27s for awhile.
The Airframe also matters. That’s why the f15e is a higher br than the f15c, it gets better engines. That’s why the eurofighter and rafale are 14.0 as well. The mica isn’t magically worse off of a mirage2k v.s. rafale, the airframe is just more capable. The aim120 on the f4f ice doesn’t become the literal death stick within 40km it can off of the eurofighter or f15e just because its an aim120. The f18c late is objectively worse at dogfighting and worse at bvr than quite a few 13.7 planes. I’m saying the f18 is objectively not 14.0 material, it has nothing to do with some narrative you’ve spun up in your head.
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Agree to disagree I guess. Both playing the F18C and having multiple peoples opinions on it, It’s fine at 14.0. Sorry you had a bad experience in it and feel it needs to fight 12.7 planes to survive. But I am telling you now. in a down tier it would terrorize everything. like the F14 did when it was first released. I know myself and many others do not want to deal with another monster like that again. I respect your opinion though. We will see where it ends up and Gaijin thinks it belongs
it’s the key at 14.0
No speed = you’re dead. (or at least useless)
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I’ve yet to see a single reason it should be the same br as rafale, f15e and eurofighter. The f15c is already objectively better at a lower br so tell me again how the f18c would magically break the game?
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All early Su-27 /J-11 is garbage planes currently.
Due to poor radar first of all.
But even they accelerate very vell at mid-to-high altitudes. And then they can do real 💩💩
Some planes are just going to be better than others. That is how this game works, play the F15C if you want that experience it doesn’t have to be in the F18, just as the F18 does not need to be in the best possible BR for that jet’s flight model. It is competitive enough at 14.0. It can kill other jets with Aim120s, it can win dogfights against other jets around the same bracket, Maybe not the eurofighter or F16C,s but it doesn’t need to win those dogfights. I would recommend trying to learn the aircraft and get better at playing it rather than lowering it’s BR so people have an easier time in it.
Or perhaps we could just put the aircraft at a br that’s its more suited to? It’s comparable to many 13.7 aircraft already. The finnish one doesn’t even get hmd for christ’s sake.
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putting the f18C US on 13.7 is complete madness, There are other planes that have speed problems, the JF17 is much slower than the F18, the Rafale flying on the deck has structural limitations, it even has an engine to go beyond Mach 1.1 on the deck, but the fuselage does not allow it.
This plane is indeed 14.0 with its kit, it will have a different function than the f15C/E, it will not fly high suppressing the enemy team, it will fly low or in a support role.
jf17 is 13.3 and its still faster than a hornet… So its a support fighter? that seems to be another way of saying bad.
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Comparable does not mean the same, if I were a U.S main only I would be thankful the F18 hasn’t been nerfed like the Su30Sm has been twice already (in weight and thrust vectoring/flight model), or I would just be thankful I am getting any new jet at all because U.S did not need another jet in their already stacked lineup, yeah the finnish one is in a bad state compared to the U.S F18C, but they have already came out and publicly said that’s just how it has to be until they get an upgraded model in a future update.
So we should all go along with Gaijin’s wonderful balancing decisions because historically, they’ve done just dandy.