its not even a sidegrade, its strictly worse
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They are quite similar.
I guess the better front armor is the reason for different BR ratings, but they could arguably have the same BR.
The fact that the AMX-13 FL11 is in the French tree is the reason why it’s a higher BR.
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I see you haven’t added the BT-7 mod.1937 yet even though both I and another user @pooqich told you it should be BR 1.7
But it has better armor than the BT-7 and is an Italian tank
If you call this better armor, if I were a main Russian player, I’d be ashamed of not being able to hit a spot where the armor is weak.
The only solution, as I’ve already pointed out, is to upgrade the BT-7 mod. 1937 to BR 1.7.
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You do understand I don’t have to add everything to the list? You simply putting it in the comments is technically adding it.
I do have a life, and nor am I paid by gaijin to manage my list. I do try to keep up with it sure, but it isn’t a priority, I don’t update it every time there is a sweep of br changes either.
Also, yes the tank still has better armor. Pretty sure the bt-7 can be 7.92’d
Please try to explain why you believe the KV-220 (an already over br’d vehicle) should be 6.3?
Because it’s practically an IS-1
Because what I see looking at your stat card, your an USA main who loves his oppressive OP 6.7 and 7.0 heavy tanks.
I’ll just assume it’s out of envy or spite of not owning the KV-220 or you took a bad shot and a good player killed you and it upset you.
I remeber now… you are the guy that plays rare op tanks and always complains that everything he plays needs to go down in BR and things that kill you need to go up.
Explain myself? Sure… global stats from last month again…
The US line up you call oppressive and constantly claim they need to go up in BR… they are good but above 1 k/d for heavies is not unexpected
And the tank you claim need a go to 5.7 because its too weak for comparison
And no i dont have KV-220 but lets compare on another rare vehicle we have in common this time where you also claim its weak (what a suprise) …here before you say its not true
So lets compare our stats in the AMX-50 TO 90
Top are yours and bottom are mine (all time stats)
I got it just recently and i dont play france much but that thing you call weak is nuke printer… no i dont think it needs to go up to stabilized teritory but definetly not down as you claim.
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what?? the kv220 is a monster and if the enemy put something to cover their commander hatch is unkillable or in a hull down position, it can stay at 6.0 and the American heavies at 6.7( and pls its a joke to compare the is1 with the kv220 the only similarity is the 85mm, the IS can get penned by everything everywhere)
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Commander hatch on the KV-220 is super volumetric at time lol, I had a T-29 non pen when I pushed him around a corner, the Commander hatch is not the way to go, flat plat on the front is easy
I’ve had a Pz.4 pierce the commander hatch and kill me. -_-
The tank isn’t as invincible as people make it out to be.
If you shoot the gun / lower plate it’s typically a kill, or you’ve knocked the tank out so bad it cannot do anything.
@Pipimer its an 85mm with two loaders and the same reload as a KT pretty much.
It’s also 6.0, and unless you have the T-V, good luck. I much prefer the Panther.
Idk I like it, I play it with my Pe-8, Asu-57, T-V, and BTR-ZD
I am not, I look for good balance in the game. Your sly bash is really unfounded, and I think you’re merely seething you don’t have the tank.
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The USA tanks are good enough to maintain a positive KDr despite having by far the worst players for a nation. I am usually top of my team, but the team folds and we lose because they have the hold W mentality that the game has programmed into their brains.
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The KV-220 buff I proposed is at the top of this thread. Take a gander. I suggested 1 of 2 things.
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Your stats for the AMX 50 (TO90/930) are an outlier, not a constant. Therefore it makes little sense to take your stat over the common stat no? And secondly, you’re nearly 2.0x higher KDr and very high win rate would make me suspect you of spawn rushing, then camping a spawn. That seems to be a very common thing.
And I do not do such a thing, I like to play mid map and objectives, as I hate the toxicity of the community, and refuse to be like that.
The Kv-220?
I wanted it so bad forever, then I got it, and all I ever see is T26E5s, KTII’s and T29s…
Or the T1E1(90) which can pen some bs angles on the turret. Super annoying.
I’d much rather play the Panther because
- mobility
- turret slew rate
- gun is way better
- smoke grenades
- Germans can’t kill a panther lol.
because you don’t like it it doesn’t mean it has to go down to br, the numbers never lie its an excellent tank that its very very good not broken but good. in 6.3 it will be mid as the T)34_85 STP
Well yeah I like both, I tend to swap between first spawn depending on maps with the 220
That’s the problem. It’s a 6.0 that can see 6.7, and 7.0 tanks 6.7 and 7.0 is extremely popular, and has very good tanks.
Meaning despite only having say the KV-220 in your lineup, your most likely to be in a 6.7 game… with a cannon that is found on 4.7/5.0 TD’s and 5.7 medium tanks.
that cannon cannot fire BR-367 otherwise I would’ve suggested that. The most logical course, is to:
- Buff the reload
- Make it 5.7
And why I prefer the Panther over the KV-220 is one simple thing. Firepower. I have to pixel hunt due to the lack of mobility with the KV-220, but not a Panther, it’s round kill / penetrates more reliably.
Secondary factors only glorify the TV more, all for lack of armor.
I don’t play based on what map. I get in a game, and I play the tank I want to play, rain or shine.
Eh, I like to use tanks when I see the potential for a very ez first spawn 10 kill game. Especially when grinding kill wagers for gambling with SL Crates
Pro tip:
If you want SL, play realistic naval in a premium vessel. Rank III and above all make the same SL amount, so you can play whatever ship type you want and profit.
Secondly, nah, I let the battle take me where it’s going to.
I genuinely hate spawn camping so much that even if the entire enemy team is gone I’ll usually hang around the caps, unless someone from their spawn fire at me, then I’ll shoot back.
Yea and my IS4 can see 8.7 games with a 5.3 gun
yea that’s a universal problem its called uptiers, and when its 5.0 its invincible
why? that’s your problem the ZSU, SU100 and 2S1 are good, and if it goes in 6.3 it will have all the 6.3 tanks so it wont be alone