The easiest thing to do would be to have a lower BR version of the Lek Panzer, the same way China has with the Bulldog, with fewer capabilities to justify the BR reduction.
There are other postwar light vehicles that could fill this function as well. There is a thread in the machinery of war section discussing these options.
Wartime, nothing I can really think of. The Luchs would probably end up going where the Puma used to be before it climbed in BR, so it would likely still not be rank III, and ditto for the insanely uparmoured variant of the Pz II (was it the J?)
The German ground tech tree is incredibly strong almost everywhere, and surely the needs of minor nations must take priority, but if there are two weaknesses that I think hold back Germany in two specific parts of the tree, it’s the lack of a light vehicle at Rank III (no spotting, harder to get into CAS, to cap first, to win the initial engagement) and lack of a medium vehicle between the Panther F and the Patton.
Similar to how the US tree is incredibly strong but currently lacks a decent SPAA option to go after the Duster.
Yeah honestly yeah. Move the Puma to rank 3 and then you don’t even really need anything to fill the gap since the Pz.38(t) super fast version is still in rank 2. If its supposed to be a scout, the Puma does well until like ~5.7 so it would be absolutely fine.
If the PaK Puma hadn’t been an event vehicle I think it (with a scouting ability) would make a great Rank 3 scout.
I have the Sdkfz 234/4. It’s my most played ground vehicle. Putting it up as an event vehicle was a huge mistake and overall detriment to the German experience for many players who joined after 2019.
There should be a standard TT version of it and the event version should recieve a special camouflage to make it unique.
I made a topic about more vehicles which could fit the gap aswell. Still need to add the marder and a few more vehicles when I have more time.
The Alvis Saladin is very promising aswell. West Germany had 92 under the name “Sonderwagen 3”. 90mm pen with hesh isn’t that bad and would fit at 4.7 or something
Bundeswehr M41 with AP (APDS) → want
PT-76 → no
234/x → AFAIK all of them are already in the game. 3 are premium/event and 1 is sub rank III. -_-
Marder with only 20mm - French already got something like this - AMX-10P at 5.7. No reason why Germany shouldn’t get the Marder without ATGM or the Spz HS.30 Lang (Schützenpanzer Lang HS.30 - Wikipedia).
To be fair, Germany (and USA) could really use a rank III-IV rapid fire 20mm. All other nations have some variation of it, so the can of worms has already been opened. That Marder I. would be perfect.
Shoving everything into rank 2 to force people to play higher BRs is extremely annoying, if you get a task to do scouting you’re forced to play what, 6.7? How are newer players going to participate in anything without grinding down half a tech tree?
God forbid they play a minor nation and have to get kills in a heavy tank, better pull out your wallet little Johnny or grind an entirely different tree because there are no heavy tanks.
Rather spähpanzer kurz, because then we can get the 90mm version later on. But both the lang and kurz can’t use dm63 and are limited to apcr, which would put them both much lower than the sub1-2 and amx10p
I have not seen any of these present in-game, especially the last two pictured with the MG 81Z or the 7.5 cm L/48, both of which would make an excellent rank III:
