Easy and fast way to solved light tank problem in German tech tree

I remember the Germans had a handful of ww2 armoured car models. Gj could add the 8-rad or the 6-rad.

Illegitimate post war nonsense. How about something like this instead:

this would cost gaijin money in terms of pak puma sales on the market => it never happens

These are all worse than the puma, because they only have the 20mm cannon. The only ww2 vehicle which could work was the vk16.02 but it never was completed

well, like the soviets, the germans wernt too interested in light tanks. Soviets too busy pulling T-34s out of their 4sses , while Germans focusing on their wunderwaffen super tanks.

Tbh we have things ingame like the Kronshtadt that were at best 11% finished or in a configuration that was never fielded or built such as the LAV-AD with Stingers and the Hydra pod but as we know GJ as soon something is german suddenly all parameters to NOT introduce it into the game are valid. Even if the cupholder doesnt hold up to USSR coffee mug standards.

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If they hadn’t made the PaK Puma a premium a long time ago I would say to add that as a TD in the light tank line with the ability to scout. Unfortunately I don’t think there is any other vehicle quite like it until post war.

That’s why a east german pt76b or m41 with only solid shot is needed. 2 easy solutions for gaijin and better than nothing. This light tank gap is really hindering germany between 3.3 and 6.7.

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ships have a different standard. If they added the vk16.02 then they would need to readd the corelian and admit that they were wrong with removing it, which will never happen.

That is what the vk16.02 looked like:

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Remember that one time they replaced the CV90105 TML with a worse version? They might do it.

Spähpanzer Luchs would be good, not sure where it’d go though.

if they add a variant without thermals and without dm63 then it could be 5.3/5.7 like the R3. But then I would rather see the spahpanzer kurz with dm63 at that br because it fits better in ww2. It would be a worse r3 and could fit at 5.0/5.3 even with dm63 (sub-1-2 as dm63 at 5.3 aswell)

Either way GJ made enough excuses to add some USSR, US, Swedish or CN prototype BS they could also for once give Germany a domestic tank that isnt C&P and doesnt break game balance and or immersion as the others do. Before the discussion desolves in readd “insert tank”, the VK has a known chassis, cannon, engine etc. and the rest can be calculated. Due to the weak gun it actually would be a light tank that actually has to scout and require tactics to play. It wouldnt be one of those imbalanced MBT´s sponsored by Wish.

Looks quite cute, and with the Puma turret on, it will look like a mini vk3002m

What about Marder without ATGM for 5.7 to 6.3 ???

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5.7 as a light tank or spaa considering amx10p and sub1-2 are 5.3. Should get dm63 aswell

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A prototype would be cool to make them visually a little bit different.

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Totally agree, +1.

The PT-76 is an obvious choice. (5.3) It’s important to note that German also received early PT-76s in addition to their PT-76Bs. These early PT-76s would be unstabilized and could allow for a lower BR of maybe 4.7/5.0. Unfortunately, no images of these early PT-76s in East German service seem to exist, however, their existence is pretty much certain since East Germany received their first PT-76s in 1956, meaning that these PT-76s probably didn’t have HEATFS either as that was just barely being introduced the same year. The stabilized PT-76B didn’t exist until 1961, with East Germany receiving those in 1964.

Regarding another M41, the German M41 we have in-game is actually a German upgraded version that added smoke launchers. Gaijin could add a non-upgraded M41 with only solid shot to back up the PT-76. (5.3)

The German Border Guard also used around 100 Saladins under the name Sonderwagen III. This one could replace the Puma at 3.7 and allow it to move up to around 4.3/4.7, where it would still be incredibly effective.

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East Germany used UAZ-469s fitted with SPG-9 recoilless rifles. Depending on how Gaijin models it and the ammo it gets, this little guy could fit anywhere between 4.7 to 6.3

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The Kraka Type 640 with the M40 recoilless rifle could also possibly slot in somewhere between 3.7 and 6.7. It has a very powerful weapon but no armor, poor firing angles, and a terribly mid top speed of 55kph.

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This last one is mega controversial and thus not advised but still valid. Germany actually trialed at least 2 EBR (1954)s. I know the EBR (1954) is 6.7 but it’s also widely considered to be over-BRed. I know how sad this sounds, but if Germany were to receive an EBR (1954) the BR would go down to around 6.0.

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I wrote a suggestion for an Sd.Kfz.234/4 armed with the AK7B 75mm, based on the KwK40, but it was not approved.
Essentially its the Sd.Kfz.234/4 with a slightly shorter reload time, slightly better penetration, and faster traverse. The AK7B was constructed at the very end of the war, with 4 examples being made. There were plans to mount it on the Sd.Kfz.234/4, but they would never come to fruition as the war ended before any feasibility study could finish.


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