Gaijin. The Merkava Mk.4's weight is wrong. Fix it

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I’ll keep this brief.

The Israeli Defense Forces has stated on their official Youtube Channel both in-video and in the title that their Merkava Mk.4M Main Battle Tank weighs 80 tons, not 65 tons.

איך מזיזים טנק ששוקל 80 טון??? | צה״ל (youtube.com)

Both the title and video are about the vehicles weight.

Translated, this video’s title states " How do you move a tank that weighs 80 tons??? | IDF "

The operators in their official military video proudly discuss how this is possible and repeatedly reiterate the vehicle weighs 80 tons.

These people work with the vehicle, maintain the vehicle, and do so much more. Their word should be trusted just as much as any manual. Especially when it’s given the seal of approval by the IDF themselves.

Can we stop with these shenanigans and fix the Merkava’s weight now? It’s unreasonable that the Merkava Mk.1 and Mk.4 are only 4.5 tons apart. That’s absurd.

Please fix this. I’m losing hope in your credibility when you claim this game is “realistic” in your ads.

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It’s always the same story.

Anything short of manuals is discarded.
But then manuals are discarded too for being classified.

It is evident that Gaijin’s current modern MBT armor modelling criteria DOES. NOT. WORK.

We need an integral rework of modern MBT armor implementation.

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@David_Bowie Can you tell us of any progress on this? Thanks.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/1eYOWMuJWJ3n

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This is a sensible solution, you have my vote

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Except when they have to solve a problem with Russian vehicles, then even a video on you tube is fine as a credible source.

For Gaijin everything non-Russian is ignored, it usually takes years before they decide to get off their lazy asses to solve it.

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Challenger 2 :"Are there any stronger competitors?!"XD

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The Challenger Mk.2 is just sad for how little armor allows it to have when it’s that heavy and slow and can be penned in the turret cheek by DM33.

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there no way its 80 tons its just exaggeration the new m4 barak weight 70+ and it has more armor then the m4m
also if u increse the merkava weight at least give it the realistic armor it deserved

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Merkava 4M fully loaded is 85.7 tonnes according to a Merkava master gunner.
82 according to multiple IDF sources.

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Do I need to pump a reply full of sources until you realize it’s impossible to disagree?

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So all mbts ahould get their ammo weight not just merkava and as i said before if u raise the merkava engine so correct the armor to be good as irl

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The Merkava’s ammunition does not weigh 20 tons.

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All MBTs are given combat weight in game including fuel and ammo. Merkava should weigh 80t because that’s what it weighs it’s not because of ammo 😂

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There is no way leo is 20 tons lighter then the merkava

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Have you seen the difference in armor coverage???

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The Merkava is covered in 200-600mm Composite in all directions aside from the some of the rear.

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Thats what im saying so there is no way merkava weight 80 tons maybe with 6 more crew and their gear fully loaded but thats not modeld and it shouldnt be
Also merkava has mortar that can fire he but gaijin refuse to give it to the merk and also there is the lahat missile.
So before u nerf the allready nerfed merkava make this counter buff especially the armor

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So why merkava armor is so bad?

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Gaijin got the weight wrong and Russian/NATO players freaked out. Gaijin nerfed it by saying a tank with that weight and armor coverage can’t have that good of armor.

Gaijin has been proven wrong about the weight, time and time again. Gaijin has accepted the armor as being far too weak in both kinetic and chemical measures for a year. Gaijin has done nothing.

Gaijin will not fix the Merkava because they don’t want their Money-Making Nations to get pissed off.

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Leo has very similar armor layout and it make sanse cuz israel designed the merkava with germany help im pretty sure and tank experts said that the merkava armor has the same effectivnes as the leo