Its sarcastic?
Cuz tbh u have the all early magachs that are cp and the shot and the first tiran and tiran 6
They need to do something, top tier is nearly dead with less than half full matches, not caused by the ground vehicles but getting constantly killed by some plane that we can’t even see, it has become to easy for cas players to dominate the game, a little fox 3 action should help balance it out.
Well luckily it is talking about the strela-1 is from the 1992-3
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Im talking about the book editions
The only Copy-paste vehicles in the Israeli Ground Tech Tree are the Magach 1, Magach 2, AMX-13, AML-90, M109, Rochev, ZSU-57-2, Magach 6, Tiran 4, Tiran 6, Hovet, ZSU-23-4, and Giraf.
The Sho’t is unique to the Israeli tree. It is a Centurion Mk.5 and not found anywhere else.
Out of 41 Ground Tech Tree vehicles, only 13 are copied and pasted. Despite being a lazy nation because Gaijin won’t get off their ass, it is not remotely as bad as China was and still is. China has 65 tech tree ground vehicles available. Out of that 65, 31 are entirely copied and pasted. That’s half. That does not include premiums, which would make it worse.
Keep in mind, Israel starts at rank 4. China does not.
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u consider cp wrong dude all the magachs til gal batash are copy pasted they feel the same and act the same also shot idk m5 or not its a basic centurion also machbet and chapparal are half cp
its not that i have problem with it i kinda like playing soviet brit amrica mixed but its a fact that a lot of the tanks and planes are cp
The Magach 3 does not exist in any other tree. It is an M48A3.
The Magach 5 is an Israeli-upgraded M48A3 with Blazer and APFSDS.
The Sho’t is a Centurion Mk.5 and receives night vision and a 50 cal, thus plays differently. It has saved my life several times.
The IDF Chapparal in-game is a bad model and should not be the way it is.
The Machbet is a Super Vulcan and is not found anywhere else in-game.
Yeah the book is the 1992-1993 version
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The worse engine is on other m60 hulls in the game and 50 cal here and nvd there doesnt make very much diffrence
Also the vulcan is on the american counterpart isnt it?
Its a lazy work of the developers and the saddest thing is that almost the entire merkava line has wrong armor and missing some rounds like the lahat
All Israeli M60’s outside the Magach 6 are entirely unique to Israel. The only one that isn’t outside of the Magach 6 is the 6A, which is only found in Italy as a Premium.
To you, are the T-54 (1947) and T-54 (1949/51) copy and paste? The Sho’t is an entirely different centurion than the Centurion Mk.3. They play similarly, but they’re not the same tank.
The Vulcan, while American, does not make a vehicle copy-and-paste. If a vehicle having the gun of another nation made it copy-and-paste, regardless of modification, that would make the Abrams a copy-and-paste of the Leopards. They’re not.
The Hovet is a C&P of the M163, but the Machbet is a Super Vulcan, which is not found in-game anywhere else.
While that may be true, you’re certainly not one to talk about that after you stated the Germans designed the Merkava tank with 0 evidence.
what exacly is is uniqe about them? same hull same gun same everything
in game there is no diffrence
yes the hovet is a cp thats what im saying and the machbet is like half cp it has the same hull and stingers about the super vulan i didnt know thats a diffrent version
i said im pretty sure cuz i remmebers i read it somewhere that israel tal did go to germany and the us to take some notes for the merkava design and btw the merkava engine is from germany so it make sanse
Super Vulcan is the commercial name given by IAI, Machbet it the name given to it by the IDF once they adopted it.
The Machbet uses the same engine and hull, but the main changes and innovations are in the FCS, optics, navigation and armament.
The radar has been replaced by a FLIR sensor and day camera. The tracking and firing solution is accomplished with digital tracking (TV tracking) and a laser rangefinder. The FCS is a digital computer powered by an Intel processor. The Machbet also has a GPS system and IFF system.
The main addition to the armament is a pod with 4 Stingers, to engage distant targets.
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Explosive Reactive Armor, M111, Engine differences, some have composite. The list goes on man. Hell, one even has a pair of Hydra pods on it…
The 50 cal makes a massive difference. It seems small, but it can keep you from firing the main gun at the lighter targets when dealing with multiple enemies.
What is the functional difference between the Centurion 5/1 and Mk.3? You’re not complaining about that vehicle despite its having the exact same differences as the Israeli one.
Who cares. It’s an Anti-Air.
Not remotely. The Machbet has thermals, stingers, and a completely different radar. It is nothing like the American M163.
If a vehicle’s based on another vehicle makes it a copy-and-paste, then the T-62 would be a copy-and-paste of the T-44 to you. That is stupid.
Once again, No. That’s misinformation. The Merkava is a homebrewed vehicle designed independently by Israel.
Also, the Engine in the Merkava Mk.1 is a Continental. That’s American.
As i said more era doesnt make a diffrance especially against apfsds brs and all have the same 750 engine exept the gal batash and the 7c
The hydra is cool i give u that but the rest feel the same
I care and its cp
Thats why i said half cp it has the same hull same gun just slap stingers and thermals
And i didnt notice to any diffrences in the radar but ok
You can belive me or not idc point is gaijin makes israel lazy work nation and its sad cuz israel has some very cool stuff and even the good stuff like merkavas and namer they messed up
ERA does make a difference at 8.0 and above. Most people sling HEAT-FS at those BRs constantly and those who don’t have their damage reduced by the ERA.
And once again, the Gal Batash and 7C are among those M60 tanks you stated were “Copy and Paste”.
Then you haven’t played them.
Then go cry somewhere else. This is a Top Tier SPAA thread.
That’s not how copy and paste works.
You don’t know enough about these vehicles.
All nations have been getting this lazy treatment for the last year or more. If Gaijin can’t properly model the RDF/LT, then they aren’t going to take the time to properly model any less important nation’s vehicles.
7c is ok in therms of cp but above 8.7 everyone use apfsds so era is useless
Played them all u are welcome to check my pf
Bruh just saying its cp u dont have what to answer so u act childish?
Thats exacly how cp works tge tanks feel the same and act the same
Thats my point its sad and annoying but what can u do
I can confidently say that’s not true.
You haven’t played them enough. The Israeli 8.7 line is the best in the entire game.
Irrelevant and rude. It’s not the thread to whine about your grievances.
It wasn’t. If you’re not going to discuss the topic, then don’t respond.
Sadly u r wrong
Didnt say it was bad just the magach line is a cp
Also its carried by magach hydra and shot kal
U keep going lol
I do
The suggestions were passed now we wait for gaijin to have mercy on us
Get back on topic. I’m not dealing with you derailing it anymore.
Tbh i forgot what we debated about