The latest patch has made fighters specifically get an SP increase from bringing bombs and now count as strike aircraft if they do, so it’s not impossible at all that they make the exception for the short defense belts.
I have seen far too many good parts of the game ruined by whiners in all game modes in the now 10 years I have been playing War Thunder.
It is overdue to intentionally ruin the whiners instead. Eventually they will cry themselves dry and grow a set. Like what happened with the Yak-9K - it still works just as well as it did before, and will continue to do so even if the BR goes up further. The people whining about the 9K eventually cried themselves to sleep, slept on it, picked up their nearest SPAAG or Fighter, and took matters into their own hands.
THAT is how the game should approach “balancing.” If people complain, give them the tools to help themselves with instead of nerfing the thing being cried about. Then if they choose not to use said tools, they only have themselves to blame.
I am aware, but maps take time to fix. We have seen too many instances of “temporary” changes being made permanent due to snail’s limited attention span.
In general, it seems as if the Snailgorithm is adding up total air and tank kills together for calculating SPAAG “effectiveness.” This means it takes a whole lot less actual effectiveness to lead to an AA going up. That is the overly punishing part that I think needs adjusting.
One of the many things I would change about all SPAAG is giving crews a default lead indicator with limited maximum range (1.5km), even if they do not have radars. Based on the existing “rangefinding” crew skill, it’s the crew estimating the range to the aerial threat in question.
Okay yeah I confused that one - it’s Czech, isn’t it?
As we both have already said - this boils down to both a map issue and also light vehicles not generating much if any spall when penetrated. It could also perhaps even be just a simple mistake you made, as aren’t all BMPs really loud? In the situation you describe it sounds like you could have heard him coming at considerable distance.
Also, SPAAGs like the L/62 ANTI II, M19A1, Crusader AA Mk.1, Whirbelwind, Ostwind, ZSU-37, Italian M42, So-Ki, Lvkv 42, and others are anything but “very mobile.”
Hell, even the Coelian currently being complained about as FoTM is for all practical purposes no more mobile than a KV-1, if not less so given the bad reverse.
Now cases like the R3 T20, BTR-ZD, Leo 40/70, yeah, those are hilariously mobile.
I don’t see the problem with it - if people think CAS is such a demon plaguing the mode, then why wouldn’t those very same whiners want to see broad use of SPAAGs take hold? Oh wait, they’re hypocrites.
We have seen for years how average players will use them. It’s long overdue to stop deluding ourselves thinking we’ll one day “convince” the average player to use SPAAG “correctly.”
If they can kill tanks, they get used, and some will then inevitably be in position to shred planes when opportunities permit.
If they cannot kill tanks, then they either don’t get used at all, or get used incorrectly to the point where they feed CAS free kills more often than they kill CAS.
The only thing Snail does well is adding new vehicles - I am well aware of the gap in the UK tree here.
Copy-paste Vulcan time, amirite?
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Fake Tank doing fake tank things!
How come the devs never modelled the “wood turret” which is the only turret which existed on this fake tank?
Quote “A wooden mock-up of the turret was created and mounted on the chassis of a Panther Ausf. D.”
Can be found on the EN post of wiki so yeah the ingame turret ist still a fake
and on the german wiki they even go and state that
Quote “never went into production” - “Eine Attrappe wurde hergestellt, aber es kam zu keiner (Serien-)Produktion”
I really would like to see show of proof from the devs of what they were reading and on what basis they would even buff that thing.
are people still going mad about it
people aim for hull and then get killed in return
and then you have exactly those people who died because they cant aim at all cry about it
just aim for the turret, shouldnt be that hard right?
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skill issue honestly, doesnt even have to do anything with its bellt
you were able to kill tanks at the same weakspots before, its now just easier to finish them off
just aim for the soft turret, instead of shooting at the strongest part of the entire tank, the FRONT hull lmfao
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Chieftain Sabre? Would probably just be 8.0 or 8.3 anyway though lol
Bruh, you dont need to post some wiki links, its no secrit that the vehicle wasnt build, thats why they were removed. I made the report, it simply had the wrong guns, now it has the correct Gerät 341, which in fact were 4 build, there is even a photo of 2 of them.
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4 were build? nice try bud ;)
There are literature references on both wikis and the only one which was “build” was the one with the wood turret.
otherwise please enlighten me and show me your proof.
but it doenst matter a fake tank is still a fake tank no matter what and it should be removed on the entire spectrum of WT forever.
The guns themselves were built, he’s talking about the guns
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ok fair then he could point that out directly :)
He’s saying that the guns were built. Which is correct.
Like, literally one line before, he said,
He’s not saying the Coelian was built. The guns however did exist in metal.
MMOs like this one live on the illusion of ownership. Gaijin will never take away from players a vehicle that they unlocked because once you break that trust and you send the message that stuff from your account can disappear at any time, there is no getting it back and you are disincentivising people from putting in hundreds or thousands of hours into the game.
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Reading comprehension is weak with many forum dwellers sadly.
Great job with reporting so many bugs and mistakes in german tree btw.
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Unironically convinced me to try and report some Jagdtiger bugs when I have some more free time in the coming weeks
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Now when GJ is remaking models of Tigers there is a chance some problems will be fixed, I especially hope rear of Tiger II Sla. will be corrected. Tho I don’t have it lmao.
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Cool and my bad if I misjudged your phrasing although its still a fake tank :D
btw from what literature references is this?
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so it should go up because of your feeelings?
It’s German WW2 documentation.
There’s a lot in the archives that no person has seen in the last 80 years.
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Well its not a fake just unfinished prototype but its ok most players mixed up this two.
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And a bunch of people are publishing information over time literally as they discover it by physically visiting the archives over many years.
For example, Yuri Pasholok’s people frequently dig out information about tanks and their development in the Third Reich by exploring the Bundesarchiv.
Another example is the Austrian content creator behind Military History Visualised and Military History Not Visualised (both YT channels). A lot of his videos start from the premise “I found this document in the Bundesarchiv and it’s interesting to consider because X”. While not AFV-specific, there’s a good dose of tank stuff in there too.
As a result, a lot of what we thought we knew about the history of German wartime tank development has changed in recent years, and is still in the process of changing.
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