The Python 3 has the same seeker as the 9L, it only performs better at short distances due to the extra 10g, and has a higher final speed, but it is completely bled by the missile’s massive drag.
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The problem is fox3s aren’t some magical win button. You seem to think so. A su27 flanker should legitimately almost never lose to a f4f kws yet your idea at changing the matchmaking would put the Su27 at a lower BR than the f4f kws. It’s also true if you put F-15, F-16, etc in this example instead of su27
Python 3’s biggest advantage is at high alts because it can unleash its full potential without suffering the massive drag induced speed bleed
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python 3s are not way better. They are just 9Ls that go faster essentially. Since the game is EXTREMELY COMPRESSED, they should be treated as IDENTICAL missiles as far as balancing is concerned. We do not have enough BRs to be drawing lines between 9L and Python 3 like both don’t perform almost identical in current WT relative to the opposition.
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I really don’t understand why people are so afraid of Python3, I think I’ll never see PL8B in the game because of this fear of Python.
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9L’s has 1.8s fuze delay, meanwhile Python 3’s has 0.5s (same as R-60M’s), that’s a massive difference to use them on head-on’s. Also Python has bigger warhead (8kg vs 4.5kg) which makes it even more effective on non-direct hits. 9L’s are nearly useless on head-ons, so yes, the difference is big.
but it is heavier and has more drag, as was said in the first post it performs better only at extremely short distances, it has a behavior very similar to that of the magic II (without irccm), it pulls large g loads bleeding its energy very quickly, at slightly greater distances the 9l performs better
neat! This is a tiny. tiny. improvement at best and will rarely have impact relative to having semi active radar missiles.
It’s heavier and bigger in caliber, that is the one generating the greater drag. It’s actual drag values are identical or lower than 9L’s. It’s range is more than enough, it’s not like Magic 2 levels. Plus you’re on Netz, an F-16 frame, you have enough speed and manevourability to close the distance. I’d take short range deadly missile any day over an long range one that MIGHT get me a kill if enemy is blind enough to not see, flare or out run it. When you launch a Python 3 at sub 1km, you just know it’s gonna hit unless they’re pre-flaring. It’s just much more consistent way of getting high kill matches.
What is false?
I didn’t claim that it’s good at it’s BR, that’s why I argued we need the BR decompression to 15.0. But still Python 3’s are much better missiles than the 9L’s.
Because Aim-9Ls are just straight up worse than Aim-7Ms.
F-16 vs JA37D; F-16 has a light-years better RWR, better TWR, better speed retention, and almost identical weapons, and a much better dogfighting gun cyclic rate. The JA37 also deletes 37 kilos of fuel in one second in full afterburner, and the F-16’s got a much better radar set.
No, for finding targets it’s beyond helpful. For getting gun solution, it’s also very helpful. You don’t need radar missiles for a radar to be useful (Just play the T-2 or F-1 to see what I mean). It’s a wonderful addition to the aircraft.
It’s the most advanced generation of agile eagle dogfight slats in the game, and it has the best performance of a phantom ingame due to its reduced weight paired with this.
Fox 3s aren’t the most common sight at 12.3 even, and it’s still very much viable. Again I say, this should be 12.0, where it would rarely fight them. The Python 3 isn’t this magic murder missile, but it’s still a massive upgrade over the Aim-9L in many areas. It has improved range, massively improved acceleration and time to target, and the new ability to destroy targets reliably in a headon. Engines are still great, it’s a lead sled after all, and it’s quite fast, even if the enemies it’s facing can be faster.
It’s not, it’s more potent than you think, and it’s very much a 12.0 aircraft. It’s not worse than the Kfir C.7 (which is perfectly fine where it’s at with its amazing FM and missiles. Only thing holding it back is CM count, no radar or radar slaving, and lowish missile load.) 12.0 is the perfect BR for it, not 11.7, as that makes absolutely no sense in comparison to other aircraft and upon further analysis of this aircraft’s capabilities.
So you should be in support of the F-16 Netz dropping in Br to 12.3
No, you can still multipath and head-on people on Netz with Python 3’s. F-16A can’t even do that.
They are almost identical in gameplay. With this comment you have permanently cemented to me that you’re just a USA main coping. :)
if you want to be taken seriously on this forum you need to present logical arguments.
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- I don’t main USA
- I don’t even play F-16A
- I played enough F-5E FCU with Python 3’s to know the difference between it and the 9L’s
Which I did many times, you coping and not accepting them isn’t my concern
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thinking the python 3’s tiny advantages set it apart from 9L to the extent it deserves to be the same BR as SARH platforms is what landed you here, and I’m not removing the label. Python 3s are a 1 flare missile.
P3 has the same seeker as 9l in the game so no ther is justification for the br