oh backpaddeling?
Not at all, Im saying I wont compare my sim to yours as its obvious you’ve played more sim? ive not even done enough for it to give rating yet xD can check my stats if you’d like.
i did K/D of 0.54
With little to no sim experience to your thousands of games?
No sim set up either.
I only began getting into sim like 2 months ago and at that barely touch it xD
lets get bcak to ARb where the main body of people actively are?
Which in the easier game mode by far, you have a worse KD, winrate and overall performance.
Now we are miles off topic for the F18s BR and should really get back on topic less the thread gets locked
my sim set up is a XBox controller
oh so you dont like that i actually know what iam talking about after initally tring to stat shame me?
TT F/A-18 should go to 12.7 and get 2 more sparrows
You do know that you could just , notch ? Literally move and it will lose track.
This is the br compression issue, literally same case. 23ML isn’t what it used to be , don’t cry about it please. In no world 23ML is better than actual 12.0. When the worst 12.0 is on par with 23ML itself and that because Gaijin can’t balance stuff
Still A set up, I dont have any set up at all for it.
Not at all, you aren’t talking from an ARB point of view, which again, most people refer to, if you told me in sim the rafale is top dog id not argue with you about it at all.
more over, your stats are worse than mine for ARB so im not stat shaming anyone.
Like look at mine, technically I can say due to my stats the mig29 is better than the F16A due to how ive got a better KD and win rate, but that objectively isnt true at all.
It already has four coupled with 2 9Ls , it wouldn’t need the extra sparrows, though the option if historical should be there.
fkin what? xD
the real definition of mach jesus, but you are treating R24s like R27ERs in your descriptions.
1470kph speed means it beats pretty much every plane in a straight line and in a dive. It is limited by airframe not engine, so it’s acceleration is also godlike and climb rate both burst and sustained. 2x amazing radar missiles with MTI, who else has this SARH combo at 11.7 or below? JA37C but with worse missiles and other performance metrics (sustained turn etc)
72 CMS of Large in the best launch pattern where others are 20-45-60.
It will out turn 80-90% of enemies, it needs full uptier to face R60M MiG29’s, F14A’s, F16A’s (with 7M), they are so far beyond it in BR.
That’s good than, because the MiG23 has the better airframe too!
Like what? The Mirage 2000D without a gun is like 40kph faster and is 12.3. It also has zero SARH. Kfir C7 has no SARH and is limited to 1460kph, less than the MiG-23. F4S for example goes like 1300kph.
12.0
apart from gun quality + ammo, radar missiles / missile quantity, top speed/dive, accel, climb. Yeah and that’s only a 0.3 difference.
notch against a plane that is both faster top speed, accel and turns better.
How much more advantage in the merge do you want to give the 23?
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CM count on paper is a bit worrying on the rafale, on practice I never found it to be an issue. You can’t spam them like on the eurofighter but its good enough. F18C has the worst CM count since drops 2 per press with only 120 CMs.
The eurofighter does everything better regarding manouvering, speed and acceleration. But the rafale is very close 2nd in all aspects but top speed, it rips at about 1450kph IAS and 101% afterburner with full load will surpass that speed. Probably 20-30% of my deaths in it was due to overspeeding in a shallow dive when busy with something else. Yesterday I killed 3 guys after ripping 1 wing…
Mica is the fastest missile within high PK ranges, and pulls by far the hardest. Its the best missile in the game plain and simple. I haven’t tried r-77-1 but I think those are the 2nd best.
I don’t like the aim120 very much, they are good for the proper wez jamming playstyle. But since you can notch missiles fired at your 12 at ranges as low as 6-7km in the most agile jets, the aim120 is sometimes the worst option to have.
I will also say the rafale is currently the best, feels like playing easy mode, its not just that it can carry 8 micas with a FM close to the eurofighter, but the radar is much better and is far easier to survive and thrive in the chaos.
The eurofighter radar keeps getting me killed because sometimes I push over the enemy unknowingly.
Another downside with the eurofighter is that if you are multipathing and want to shoot an aim120 you need to point your nose up and climb away from safety or the missile might hit the ground, the mica just pulls off the rail like a squirrel on crack.
The reason the F18A is at 12.3 is because the premium one has much better missiles and gaijin doesn’t want to put it at 13.0, or decompress BRs for that matter.
Having both at the same BR is a blatant PTW issue, both should be higher in BR but at 13.0 the F18C early gets overshadowed by the flankers and the fox3 slingers. 13.0 is the most compressed BR there is
A band aid solutions I would be fine with, is to give the premium one Aim9M and put it there. Then the f18A could move up to 12.7.
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It doesn’t
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Last time i tried to fly 23MLA the radar wasnt even nerfed, it was borderline bugged, refusing to lock.
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Mica also lacks a lot of range compared to the aim120s as it blows itself out thrust vectoring.
The micas are incredible missiles, in close range.
However if you stay out of the MAR which you can do even in a the JAS39C with R darters them the rafale suddenly becomes less of a problem.
The ef2000 hell even f15e has caused me substantially more issues with the 120s as it puts you defensive long before you are within range. The mica is completely negated if you stay outwith its range, the R77-1 is I believe on par now with the Aim120.
So the EF 2000 is better in every regard in FM and speed? and only falls short on the radar department?
That makes no sense, if the EF2000 as you say is better Fm wise, then how is it not easier to survive in the 16v16 chaos?
how even?
How are you flying over the enemy without knowing they are there…
That cause the MICA has thrust vectoring, which if you are in close engagements with, can use against it, if you get the rafale ( or anyother Thrust vectoring missile carrier) low enough speed it massively hampers the missiles launch and can cause it to basically spin out.
Unless they patched that but as far as ive seen, they haven’t.
To be fair to it, its top speed on teh deck is what 1.22? ish, however to attain that you have to go full swept wing and also take the time to dive / accelerate to it, in which time you lose almost all ability to manuevere like an 11.7 air craft and turn into a flying brick.
I mean the MTi mode is incredibly situational its not as if its suddenly MTI, which can insta lock enemies, it also is a pretty sh*t radar overall.
72CMs as well as more thrust so even sometimes an R60 or 9L will creep through (depending if you flare properly or not)
No it wont.
See this is where the argument falls apart to be able to turn with most enemies you sacrifice the ability to go fast
The FM changes mean even with a 65 percent wing sweep its still a struggle to keep up with stuff like the F4E or F5Es.
You can slam its wings to 85 and try bleed them of energy but this too has the drawbacks of you lose more dogfight capabilities.
Than what? specifically.
WDYM like what? the F16A, mirage 2000C S4, the F20A last I checked.
The big thing you keep over looking is the fact that the Mig 23 sacrifices all other aspects of its FM to move fast, it cannot turn at all.
yeah realised that after I put it in that it was looking at GRB but wasn’t able to change it was teaching.
J7E has a better gun, less ammo. has 2 less but more reliable missiles/ and is far more controllable at its higher end speeds than the mig23M, ML and MLD.
See, you keep adding these three together, when if you want the Mig23 to go fast you have to sacrifice its ability to turn, ive no idea why you keep acting as if its going mach 1.22 and can turn
It does genuinely refuse to lock ive had folks in thr mti mode, and on the shoot down aspect and refuse.to lock, acm, scanning and actively trying to get it to lock.
Its a nightmare to function ive had more luck with r60s over r24s.
The mig29 with the r27ers but is a totally different ballgame
well folks tell me its suffering, in ARB ive reliably seen them rinse lobbies so its a hit or miss i reckon
The extra range is not useful if your target has lots of time to react and notch. That’s why I said the mica is the best within high PK ranges, gives the less time to react.
MAR is irrelevant when you can reliably notch missiles. Furthermore I won’t be launching micas outside of the MAR to begin with. I can just fly sideways being defensive all the time with the rafale against a aim120 spammer and whenever he gets close I just HOBS a mica into him and keep notching. That’s doable with every modern fox3 except the aim120 itself.
Based on…? Because the 7P is a IOG+DL missile and the hornet radar is the best at the BR with the smallest notch angles.
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It has TWS+6 Sparrows and gets 11.7 games most of the time haha