Simply put , Fox-3. That the only reason why SMT is at 13.3 and even then it is not even that great at that BR. SMT is such a weird plane that no matter how you put it , someone gonna have their day ruined. But mostly it gonna be the SMT user
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ive been tked about a dozen times by f18s since their release. They seem to attract particularly stupid people who spam their missiles with very little brain activity, but in reality its just… a really mediocre plane? Its only good in hordes since they tend to stick in swarms lol.
Its st 13.7 last i checked with fox3
Im talking before fox 3 missiles were added. The smt sat at 12.7 while F15A sat at 12.3 for absolutely ages.
Nothing constructive to add, then dont add anything bud
I mean leaving matches before they begin but ?
I still just soldier on in the uptiers struggle or not
Believe me ive tried 😂
an average F16 pilot has more chance of winning than a good/experienced MiG 29 pilot
Read what i wrote.
Im not saying a good or just experienced
The word great means someone extremely experienced and extemely good, the average F16A pilot wont win that bout often.
If you have a decent mig29 player vs a decent f16 player it wins like i said almost every single time.
Sure nonsense
As it stands the rafale is the best plane in the game and no matter how bad a player is he is going to do good in it
Got something to back that up?
other than “muh player stats”
Cause player stats also have the TKX (P) sitting the same BR as the Abrams M1A2, the leopard 2PL and so on.
Also had the F15A sitting at 12.3 while even the likes of hte mig29 SMT was at 12.7.
The French players already before the damn Rafale were doing good with the mirage and F16, whats gonna happen when they get a good plane? itll ofc skyrocket. Or we just ignoring how britains went up with the EF2000? and germany? and even italy?
You are claiming the rafale is the best plane in the game no matter how bad a player is they will win.
Yet when I stated to you that even one of the best duelists in the whole damn game couldn’t beat defyn with it, when he was in an EF2000 its nonsense?
The EF2000 is actively better than it, even if its place holder radar is ass.
Did you never look at the rafale?
It has the best or second best flight model
It has one of the best radars ingame
It has a RWR and MAWS without blind spots
It has some of the best a2a weapons in game and one of the best a2g weapons
A good plane?
The mirage 2000 was already a good plane, the rafale is the best plane in the game.
The rafale flies itself especially in simulator.
You don’t need to work hard to IFF ppl, you don’t need to work hard to find ppl and you sure as hell don’t need to work hard to kill ppl.
As it stands flying the rafale is like playing in easy mode
The AIM-7P relies on radar, and the F/A-18’s radar is overpowered compared to third-generation fighters. As a result, it’s much harder to dodge an AIM-7 that can lock onto you from 80 meters above the ground, while you can’t lock onto it because your jet is a third-generation fighter and your radar is terrible compared to the F/A-18’s.(something like 12.7 is already good for him)
The MiG-23 isn’t really OP — the only good thing it has is the R-24R, which depends on radar. But the radar is terrible; a few chaffs and some basic maneuvers and you lose lock (that’s assuming you even manage to get a lock in the first place, lol).
It also has a severe lacking of CM’s last I checked only has about what 50 flares?
I mean has a boatload of chaff, same as all top tiers as well.
Definitely as I’ve said, not the best, the EF2000 has that as far as I know, the Rafale can pull insane AoA but it turns it into a falling leaf.
Mica as best A2A?? where?
aim120 is better
R77-1 is better
I think MICAs are down there with the Derby’s and darters.
Sure its great in Close range engagements, but whos really within NEZ of these planes.
always focus on jamming the WEZ and prevent the lockup any ways.
You keep throwing that out there without any actual factual statements to back it up.
It was good, so was the F16 they got, but in the grand scheme of things the F15’s and the F16C’s were better than the French model F16 and the Mirage 2000, some folks even thought hte su27s were better (I do not think that DW)
Then they get an extremely capable plane in the rafale, It is a fantastic platform and a good plane, however I do not believe it is the best in game, certainly in the top 3 but.
So again, we take the percentage of french players at top tier (which is now dramatically increasing with folks nose grinding for the Rafale cause its iconic AF), which was a small sample pool, compared to say USSR or USA, whos win rates were significantly lower, even before Rafale.
So when those good french players get a fantastic plane ofc win rates will soar.
Also something funny here, your name doesn’t seem to show up, in game OR on stat shark, neither the squadron.
EDIT: were also talking about the F18’s on here and went off topic, however in game the Typhoon also has better high speed performance than the Rafale, was checking it htere, meaning its far easier for it to maintain a defensive posture and retaliate
It is impossible to convince that grass is green.
Oh yeah let’s just forget about the 5 or more best in class attributes it maintains at the same time. Where’s the weakness, it has 2 amazing radar missiles and enemies above it in BR have 2-4 sometimes even 0 with worse everything flight performance?
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Have you considered with a heavily nerfed already inconsistence radar R-24R would have some kind of downside ?
That the 23ML fault or gaijin unable to balance stuff. Sure F4J(UK) , both tech tree and premium are dogshit. That cause gaijin unable to balance stuff , they should have been 11.7 and no one would complain. But for other instance ? No , worse FP doesn’t mean it is worse. Take F4S/J for example , it missile load couple with HMD make it an excellent fighter for literally anything , actually better at head on than 23ML. Who would have thought
What are those then?
Its radar since the MTI changes is also shambolic at best.
The MTI can only activate when the planes pointed below the horizon, and below 1500 meters altitude, as well as that it absolutely is struggling to actually get the lock, once it gets it sure, R24Rs are good.
But id rather a better air frame over 2 missiles.
R60Ms are found on 11.0 planes in the mig21 lazur and even the mig23, and even then they are pretty poor missiles. The aim9g while not All aspect is comparable. Aim9L is absolutely better.
So what are these five or more attributes it does better.
Its what faster than most 11.3s and 11.7s but 12.0s and 12.3s above are faster.
The Kfir C7 is armed with 4 x Python 3s at 11.3 as well as a banger of a ground loadout.
The Viggen while worse FM at 11.3 has access to 2 x RB71s and most importantly a PD radar
And ofc has the reliable 4 x RB 74s as well.
France is lacking a 11.3 or 11.7 etc so skip that.
and italy hasnt really got an 11.3 or 11.7 the F104 ASA is not good for the BR at all.
china has the J7E which beats the Mig23 MLD even in every aspct apart from radar missiles and top speed PL5Bs are better missiles htan the R60s. J8B is about on par with the mig23ML (not the MLD)
at 11.3
Japan has the F5T SCU at 11.3 which people are calling to be put to 11.7 as it has access to pythons as well as is a banger of an air frame, beats the Mig23ML in most aspects bar radar and SARH’s
Britain doesnt have an 11.7 that isnt the vark, and well thats a vark so.
USSR has the mig23s
Germany at that range has the MLA which is the same as the ML so.
and the USA has -
F5E and the F4E which both give the mig23 a run for its money.
So yeah what five catagories is it better in than all those planes?
even got the A10C at 11.7 with 4 x 9ms which mig23 cant stand against
The FGR2 and FG1 beat the mig23 as they have the PD radar set which can be turned on and off, and more SARHs’ while not as potent as the R24 you will reliably get them off hte rail. At least in ARB in sim different story.
Yea it gives up literally everything to get 2 more SARH missiles + HMD and is arguably worse at head on, R24R comes off the rails at mach 200. F4S Even comes with a 0.3 br boost as well to sweeten the deal, incredible, it will surely enjoy those j11/su33/su27/29g battles.
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