F/A-18 ruined 11.7

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706

You didn’t play the others at all, and you barely have positive stats with the F15. Sorry but you brought stats first.

Here are my relevant stats, allow me to give you some more context

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I first researched the F-15A, in the very first days it was introduced, after some time I got the J11 which was played after most people got their own top tiers and spaded them.
I got the first su-27 not long ago when we already had 13.7 or 14.0 top tier.

Forgot about the F-15J which is slightly better than the A, I played it alongside the su-27 not long ago, but I only played downtiers, if I got uptiered to 13.7+ I always left the match. I have decent stats with it but in my opinion wasn’t a good experience. I was always on my toes, while with the su-27 I can be much more aggressive and relaxed if that makes sense.

707

Working on the J11 actually and going for an SMT before the Su27
as wella s that the F15A I told you I only finished spading it very recently, as well as that its also my cas plane for GRB so that accounts for quite a number of those deaths. Meanwhile you play it seems excuslively air combat with these platforms.

Also you are aware your F15A stats are better than the J11 stats. for just 26 more deaths you have more than 40 kills.

Reading that your stats ima throw out the window that is an incredibly cheap and stat padding thing to do buddy.

Why tf ?

Like im not even gonna bother my arse to try justify anything to you now, you’ve just openly admitted to bailing out of the game in an uptier. that is cheap as hell mate.

EDIT FInally
You also have to admit the SMT that wasa 12.7 when the F15A was 12.3 made no sense either, the SMT was worse than the F15A

708

I haven’t played the F-15A much more than the initial phase, that’s mostly it. In my recent games, having 3 kills in a f-15A is a decent game, having 4 kills in the su-27 is bread and butter.

Yeah, you’re not finding me fighting fox3s with IR missiles. Same with the french F-16A. Leaving a match early or not joining at all is the same, since I am not robbing my team since my place will be replaced immediately.

I never mentioned the contrary. the SMT was never in a great place.

709

F15J has Sparrows.

So back when the F15A was at its best then? xd
I got it just before it hit 13.0 and was up against ARH slingers.

I stated above, and your responses were inclined to say as if it was merited, at least were on the page there, however why was the SMT higher BR than the F15a?

710

Dead weight in a uptier. I’m not saying I can’t do well, I often had 1 or 2 kills with it in the few uptiers I played. But its not fun playing defense all match and only third partying people when your teams plays good.

711

Ask gaijin lol

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712

Simply put , Fox-3. That the only reason why SMT is at 13.3 and even then it is not even that great at that BR. SMT is such a weird plane that no matter how you put it , someone gonna have their day ruined. But mostly it gonna be the SMT user

713

lol

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714

ive been tked about a dozen times by f18s since their release. They seem to attract particularly stupid people who spam their missiles with very little brain activity, but in reality its just… a really mediocre plane? Its only good in hordes since they tend to stick in swarms lol.

715

Its st 13.7 last i checked with fox3

Im talking before fox 3 missiles were added. The smt sat at 12.7 while F15A sat at 12.3 for absolutely ages.

Nothing constructive to add, then dont add anything bud

716

I mean leaving matches before they begin but ?

I still just soldier on in the uptiers struggle or not

717

Believe me ive tried 😂

718

an average F16 pilot has more chance of winning than a good/experienced MiG 29 pilot

719

Read what i wrote.

Im not saying a good or just experienced

The word great means someone extremely experienced and extemely good, the average F16A pilot wont win that bout often.

If you have a decent mig29 player vs a decent f16 player it wins like i said almost every single time.

720

Sure nonsense

As it stands the rafale is the best plane in the game and no matter how bad a player is he is going to do good in it

721

Got something to back that up?
other than “muh player stats”

Cause player stats also have the TKX (P) sitting the same BR as the Abrams M1A2, the leopard 2PL and so on.

Also had the F15A sitting at 12.3 while even the likes of hte mig29 SMT was at 12.7.

The French players already before the damn Rafale were doing good with the mirage and F16, whats gonna happen when they get a good plane? itll ofc skyrocket. Or we just ignoring how britains went up with the EF2000? and germany? and even italy?

You are claiming the rafale is the best plane in the game no matter how bad a player is they will win.

Yet when I stated to you that even one of the best duelists in the whole damn game couldn’t beat defyn with it, when he was in an EF2000 its nonsense?
The EF2000 is actively better than it, even if its place holder radar is ass.

722

Did you never look at the rafale?
It has the best or second best flight model
It has one of the best radars ingame
It has a RWR and MAWS without blind spots
It has some of the best a2a weapons in game and one of the best a2g weapons

A good plane?
The mirage 2000 was already a good plane, the rafale is the best plane in the game.
The rafale flies itself especially in simulator.
You don’t need to work hard to IFF ppl, you don’t need to work hard to find ppl and you sure as hell don’t need to work hard to kill ppl.

As it stands flying the rafale is like playing in easy mode

723

The AIM-7P relies on radar, and the F/A-18’s radar is overpowered compared to third-generation fighters. As a result, it’s much harder to dodge an AIM-7 that can lock onto you from 80 meters above the ground, while you can’t lock onto it because your jet is a third-generation fighter and your radar is terrible compared to the F/A-18’s.(something like 12.7 is already good for him)

724

The MiG-23 isn’t really OP — the only good thing it has is the R-24R, which depends on radar. But the radar is terrible; a few chaffs and some basic maneuvers and you lose lock (that’s assuming you even manage to get a lock in the first place, lol).

725

It also has a severe lacking of CM’s last I checked only has about what 50 flares?
I mean has a boatload of chaff, same as all top tiers as well.

Definitely as I’ve said, not the best, the EF2000 has that as far as I know, the Rafale can pull insane AoA but it turns it into a falling leaf.

Mica as best A2A?? where?
aim120 is better
R77-1 is better
I think MICAs are down there with the Derby’s and darters.

Sure its great in Close range engagements, but whos really within NEZ of these planes.
always focus on jamming the WEZ and prevent the lockup any ways.

You keep throwing that out there without any actual factual statements to back it up.

It was good, so was the F16 they got, but in the grand scheme of things the F15’s and the F16C’s were better than the French model F16 and the Mirage 2000, some folks even thought hte su27s were better (I do not think that DW)

Then they get an extremely capable plane in the rafale, It is a fantastic platform and a good plane, however I do not believe it is the best in game, certainly in the top 3 but.

So again, we take the percentage of french players at top tier (which is now dramatically increasing with folks nose grinding for the Rafale cause its iconic AF), which was a small sample pool, compared to say USSR or USA, whos win rates were significantly lower, even before Rafale.
So when those good french players get a fantastic plane ofc win rates will soar.

Also something funny here, your name doesn’t seem to show up, in game OR on stat shark, neither the squadron.

EDIT: were also talking about the F18’s on here and went off topic, however in game the Typhoon also has better high speed performance than the Rafale, was checking it htere, meaning its far easier for it to maintain a defensive posture and retaliate