Yea I wonder why they shifted from an Intercept and Merge doctrine to BVR and Energy fights in vehicles that turn so hard at fast speeds your ribs can break with weapons that can shoot at you from 10+km
I hate to be an a-hole here but this is clearly a skill issue
Even I that am medium skilled player and have 1:1 KD while spading most stuff, can push F-5 to 2:1 easily.
Buy one then despite everyone here making it sound like I think the F-5C is terrible I dont think that at all its well worth the money but butthurt people that play Hunters at 9.7 shouldnt be the sole opinion on where its br sits…saying it belongs at 11.0 br because it can dogfight with its guns and has Flares is a ludicrous Idea just like last year when I was actually fighting Tomcats and F-4J and MiG -23 in the F-5C…did you play the Skoshi while that was going on??? NOBODY thought it should fight those and it dosent anymore thank god
Yes, clearly the reason I’m killing F-5s is because I’ve bad at the game.
The F5 is one of the best fighters in the game wdym
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Simply put, if you die to an f-5c on a plane faster than mach 1.1 with better engine power, better missiles and enough nose authority you still die to zeroes at 6.0. But everyone just keeps screaming “americans op” even if anything that is american or russian is falling apart quite badly for supersonics air RB.
mig 21s more my style but F5 isnt bad its a tweaked mig 19 so pretty good only mid one is F5C and F5A because 10g misslie and weak engines on A
F-5A has stronger engines and better missiles than f-5c, and share br, because for some reason China is being presented as “sidestick office” (it’s an euphemism for Airbus automatized cockpit)
your delusional the F5A has older less powerful engines than C model NF5A is only one with better engine than C thats a A model F5C gets tweaked engines
Will you stop necroposting outdated posts, please?
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I wonder if usa/ussr are more meta than other nations on average in air rb?
(they are)
F5 aside from the thai leans more into dogfighting/gun and good aim in a bracket where some players might be leaning on missiles for a crutch (was me for a while and still is tbh). So it might feel bad in the hands of those players compared to other offerings at similar BR.
Also get punished for bad posisitioning and energy management more than other planes.
Just my guess as to why people would consider them “weaksauce”.
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it’s not necroposting if it’s still relevant.
I wonder if usa/ussr are more meta than other nations on average in air rb?
(they are)
Completely wrong, the meta between 9.7 and 11.7 is China with the j7d and from 11.7 to 12.7 is France, then from 12.7 to 14.0 it is a mix between France and China.
Regarding the j7d, it’s a MiG21MF which happens to outperform the mig21bis below 500kmh of airspeed and since it has no flare pod it is faster than the mig21 mf/smt. It also has four missiles that can kill phantoms and mig23s head on from 1km away. So moving the j7d from 10.7 to 11.3 will give it more success rate since 11.3 aircraft are hotter.
op is talking about the f-5c, which happens to be the worst of them all yet it shares br with all of them. It has less thrust than many subsonic aircraft, has horrible energy retention (you either trade speed or maneuverability, there is literally no inbetween) and it’s extremely slow. Except the American F-5C and the American F-5E all of them are good. Lighter, better engines, better missiles.
There’s no excuse for dying to an f-5c, even the su25 can deal with it as long as it goes without suspended ordnance.
Man, this sounds cringe.
F-5C always were and always will be one of the worst nightmares for jets which has insufficient flight characteristics.
If you evade AIM-9E from F-5C while flying Jaguar GR.1, you will die because F-5C will catch you up and gun you down
If you fly straight to not let F-5C catch you, you will die to AIM-9E because you flew straight.
I wonder why Gaijin don’t just shove AIM-9J to F-5A/C (USAF) for remove that gross ‘wdym it has AIM-9E’ theory.
Those bastards are nothing more than a gross chimaera with stolen countermeasures from ROC.
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how so? It gets kicked in the rears by anything that is not an a5c that decides not to rate fight. You can outrate them in mig21s, you can one circle them in crusaders, you can spiral trap them in f-4e and su25. F5C is not a good dogfighter, it’s a brick with wings that can’t decide between pulling 10g’s only or turning and burning all of it’s speed which can’t be recovered back in less than a minute flying straight (you will eat any kind of missile even while flaring) it literally takes 40 seconds to go from 600ias to 1090 ias in a straight line.
oh yeah let’s post a bunch of attackers while saying that my post is cringe, do you want them to even win against a hardwing phantom? Stop daydreaming. Hunters are great at dealing with f-5c’s. Case being they have higher thrust and better slow speed handling.
You claimed that F-5C is the weakest jet.
I am saying it is a blatant lie.
Maybe it could get an ahistorical AIM-9J just as ahistorical countermeasures did for buffing it.
As long as it is nothing more than a gross chimaera, just at the same level as Ho-ri.
What could possibly go wrong? :/
Hu?
11.7 the meta aircraft is definetly the Mig23MLD
12.0 is a mix between tornado adv, mirage f1C and F4S
12.3 is definetly F18 and F16
12.7 the mig-29 and F18 and Mirage 2000
13.0 is 100% the Gripen A
13.0+ gets tricky, but is fairly evenly balanced except for the F15C which should be 14.0
The 14.0s which are a step above most other aircraft except for a few are fairly balanced against each other, though granted the Rafale has the best missiles by far. Though china for example does not have a 14.0.
So. No?
But China is meta from 9.7+ because they have 2 actually decent aircraft at 10.7/11.3 is a bit of a over exegeration. A lot of their tree is actually quite weak or a C&P of US stuff. As for France, they are meta at 14.0, but are actaully fairly average performing until then. Sure, they are good missiles, but usually balanced by poor ammo count.
Yes the J7s are strong but to use them as an excuse for the F5s to be just as overpowered is kinda insane. F5 is in desperate need of a healthy round of nerfs, like giving it a heat signature
The F-5 remains the aircraft I hate fighting against the most, as they are strong gunfighters and very hard to kill
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The 9.3 hunter can force and win a 2 circle fight