Since the implementation of AAM-3 (90式空対空誘導弾) in major update “Air Superiority”, F-4 EJ Kai when from able to fight F-16 almost toe to toe, to now just getting their butt handed to themselves by 9M and other missiles, not like F-16AJ has somewhat maneuverability to increse survivability against 12.3-12.7 Aircraft, I really like to see AAM-3 been implemented to EJ kai in future, moving its BR to 12.0 or 12.3, will give the Japanese air player to have more option other than F15J before F-2A\B comes out.
Well, never thought I would come bcak to this post again, decided to play the EJK again, then realized half the time I’m facing IRCM or AMRAAM, so since is now 12.3, downtier strong but can we have the AAM-3 and move to 12.7 or a new folded at 12.7 now?
Honestly Id rather they put a different version in with AAM-3s than add them to the current one.
AAM3s would definitely mean a BR increase and honestly as we have learned with that german Phantom with AIM120s, its completely unusable at 13.0. i dont think the EJ kai would do much better at 12.7 even with AAM3s.
You know there always is the option to just add an F-4EJ Kai ADTW since well that gives to a separate one to add the AAM-3 to and well if you want to have it closer to the F-4F ICE they did evaluate the aam-4 on it when it was still in development, though it would either have to not be a tech tree vehicle or put in a folder with the existing ej kai. I wouldn’t still consider it a good idea but it’s better than giving the F-4EJ Kai the aam-3 alone since it would quite obviously end up with the same issue of the Ja-37DI where it has better missiles than the one prior (in this case it has the aim-120 which irl the Ja-37D could use and the difference between the D and DI is very minor) but giving it said better missile is going to put it up to a higher br to where it is going to make it worse in practice, regardless of if you give it the aam-4 or not.
The benefits of giving the EJ Kai the aam-3 do not out weight the cons in this case without question, since well saying it is always going up against aim-120’s is quite obviously a load of bs since the number of planes with arh missiles it can see is quite limited when you look at it. For the planes it can see carrying the aim-120 they consist of well an interesting collection of aircraft such as the F-4F ice, the Av-8B+ plus the Sea Harrier Fa2, a Tornado, and Vigens which for their br are worse off than the next highest variant so in total just 6 aircraft, and if I am being quite frank the scary planes it can see with arh missiles are not planes with aim-120’s imo since it can see the JF-17, Su-34, and to a lesser extent the J-8F, Mig-29SMT, F-16D Barack for example. So, while that doesn’t account for all arh carriers it can see it well is most of them, only other one that might be of note to mention is the Kifir C10 but that’s it, since the rest are all F-14’s. Now say moving it to 12.7 alone will mean you now encounter every F-15 that isn’t a strike eagle that has arh missiles, every F-16 with arh missiles, almost all the flankers with arh missiles, the Mirage 2000 with the mica, the Gripen C, so well I don’t think I need to do the math here to say the whole idea that it ought to have the aam-3 because it supposedly is going up against too many planes with aim-120’s which would without doubt see it go to 12.7 would leave you in a far worse place than you started because you are then going to be an environment where it would be going up against too many of them, and well while the aam-3 is really good it is never going to solve that issue. It would honestly be better off with both the AAM-3 and early AAM-4 at 13.0 like the F-4F ice than to just give it the aam-3 alone either to the existing one or sperate one, because while it would perform terribly regardless of it would be better at that point just not holding back its missiles at that point. In the end though, I really just think it’s better to not even think of suggesting giving the F-4EJ Kai better missiles and risk it being in a far worse position than where it currently stands.
In downtier its actually slaughter, in uptier it still works in BVR. Biggest issue is when someone merges so you have to try to keep your distance as to prevent merge alltogether
