Since the introduction of the Fox-3 missiles, a large part of the Italian community has requested and supported the idea that the F-16 ADF should be updated with its real armament, namely the AIM-9L-i and especially the AIM-120 (B or C5 model). To raise awareness among the developers on this issue, this poll is being proposed. It should be noted that, in reality, the Italian F-16s have always been in service with the AIM-120s and have never used the AIM-7s. Not all Italian players are interested in researching the Hungarian sub-tree, and the only other aircraft in the tech tree equipped with the Fox-3 is the Harrier, which is very capable but remains a subsonic. It seems reasonable to update the aircraft with their real armament, especially since there are plenty of aircraft equipped with Fox-1s in the tech tree to practice with.
Yes, I think it’s a great idea to add AIM-120 and AIM-9L/I-1 to the Italian F-16ADF. It will make the plane more historically accurate and imo place it in a more comfortable spot in terms of balance. Also the precence of Hungarian Gripen as ARH platform shouldn’t be an excuse to hold ADF capabilities. Not only it’s normal to have 3 and more ARH carriers in the tree, but it’s also been said by stuff multiple time that subnation vehicles don’t come instead of nation (tree owner) vehicles.
absolutely yes for both the amraam and the aim-9l-i, if they really want to keep a fox-1 only f-16 in the tree i will suggest to add a f-16b block 5 too since italy used those too (and maybe make it use anti ground ordinance too) but please let the f-16 adf use its real life armaments
I would be alright with Gaijin doing this with the ADF: addition of AIM-9L-i and AIM-120 (whatever variant was carried by Italian AF), as whatever BR increases are required.
THEN, Gaijin can go back and add in maybe an Italian F-16B OCU to take over the original spot. Wouldn’t get Sparrows, but could possibly get Mavs and other stuff the Block 10s used (gonna be more on the semi-historical side, since Italy likely never used Mavs on their F-16Bs, but the capability was still there)
ADF and MLU don’t have their realistic loadouts although I think it might be better off getting a new F16 since it wouldn’t faire that well at 13.7 and be just as competitive as it currently is.
Claims like yours needs to be addressed with sources,…
And btw, the reality of the game shows that BR should get expended,… there is no way to enjoy any game without Fox-3 vs With Fox-3.
And finally,… the whole purpose of F-16A ADF was to get an Air Defence Fighter light and cheap.
The AIM-120 came way down later, and this would also mean having a F-16 with no multirole at a renewed BR of minimum 13.3 - also note that this modification will only add 2x AIM-120 replacing current AIM-7M.
Also would be better if Radar got improved, as it lost target so easily
Responses like this only highlight the usual lack of preparation and knowledge, as well as the typical resentment toward what is given to others and not to one’s own preferred nation. The ADFs from the Peace Caesar program underwent some upgrades, including radar improvements to use AIM-120s (a total of 4), the capability to use LANTIRN and Sniper pods, and the ADFs, which are Block 15s, still retain their air-to-ground capabilities. The radar is admittedly not state-of-the-art, but the game lacks TWR, all issues that have been known and ignored by the developers for almost a year. Giving them the AIM-120 C5 would help bridge the radar gap. In any case, in a game where there are entirely fictional F-16s (like the Japanese one), it’s unclear why the Italian tech tree should always be penalized by denying its air-to-ground capabilities and the missiles used in service.
Concerning sources we have provided lot of documetns to the dev, via the issue module.
I’m being clear with the current gameplay of it.(i just finished all the modules of it)
Decompression is more required than giving F-16A an even Higher BR,…
Same goes for the F-16A in France(belgium) which is 13.3 because it does have AIM-9M’s, but no BVR be it Fox-1/Fox-3.
The game also goes by BR System, which makes dependant the weaponnary.
Gaijin doesn’t need to have 10 variants of F-16 at 13.7 while there is a gap at 13.0/12.7.
Also, Gaijin never said that every aircraft would ever recieve the entierety of upgrades they got in Real-Life, or it would makes no senses not to have MICA-IR already on Mirage 2000-5F, for exemple.
There is a lot of aircrafts that could go from current weaponary to upgraded ones, and why they’re not having it is due to having a somewhat rictus of balance.
Therefore, what you’re asking can’t be happenning.
I believe you are confused. First, you talk about the capabilities of the Italian ADF without knowing them, then you dive into discussions about game balancing, and then you involve other aircraft from different nations, which is irrelevant. The purpose of the topic and the vote is just one: to raise awareness that the majority of users in the Italian tech tree (and you are not among them, as you only have 64 vehicles, not even half of which are fully spaded) would like to have the F-16 with the armament it had in service. The rest are just unnecessary arguments and off-topic comments. So, your opposing position is clear, which you have likely expressed in the votes.
1st because you’ll send an outdated aircraft to 13.7+
2nd because it would simply be compared to his “US-brother”
3rd because Nothing in this game concerns only some people,… as those will fight with/Versus OTHER countries.
so AGAIN: ITALY mains are not the only to be able to talk over this.
if it doesn’t fits you, too bad,… expression rights are all over this forum.
now, feel free to contact a moderator if you would like,… yet i was on topic, until you entered that sweet power trip over your poll-thread, in which what you want is no opposition.
the F-16A ADF,… fitted with AIM-120C (that we don’t have yet in game), would be Over BR’ed and simply become an even more Cannon Fodder.
where the only solutions lies into Decompression of the whole game.
as i’m also assuming that EF-2000 is close by and would be introduced behind that F-16A ADF
PS: just watching your “impressive knowledge” of the F-16A ADF Blk15 in game wise:
2 death 2 kills in 2 match.
and you tell me that i’m wrong looking at my stats, from the “US Brother”?
bro at least i spaded a F-16A ADF, with a 1.397 KD
looking at others aircraft you have in all other nations, from Rank 5 to 8 - you’re average KD is below 0.3 - reaching a top of 0.6 in Saggitario 2
don’t talk to me about how i’m unfit to talk over this aircraft bro,… you’ve no more rights than me nor i do
