Yeah, as anything can be mounted to any pylon if it was available to be mounted. Still not a valid reason without proof.
About historical accuracy: for what i remember in a post on the old forum, the Turkish air force never bought the 104S version with radar/AIM7 and yet in game it can use them
Viable reason to take it away and move it down in BR. There’s your solution.
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Respectfully can i point out that a lower br what whas asked in the first place and the fold out/better missiles was me trying to find a compromise?
it wasn’t the old forum, here the post
I don’t remember correctly tbh but, I saw the photo F-104S had x4 or x2 AIM-9Ls.
I’m finding that photo in forum rn but, would takes bit long time.
Maybe I’m wrong :/
here?
The asa can only bring 4 AIM9-L for what can i see
if the 104 S can bring 6 (i don’t think so btw) i see it as an upgrade
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Yes that’s it.
This photo seems taken in 1988 so, we need to investigate when the F-104S (783-1187) in this photo had the S-ASA modification done. If it was after 1988, it would be possible for F-104S to receive AIM-9L.
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F-104J has 6x AIm9ps
Which is missing flares…
I think what alot of people in here are not quite getting is that aside from the “Nice” loadout with the Aim-9P’s and optional Aim-7E ( if you sacrifice the cannon ) in the end its still an F-104.
That Airframe simply has no business going up against what it awaits at 12.0 (12.3 for the ASA )
Now what would the F104S face at 10.7 with a downtier to 9.7?
A handful of strike aircraft which have that BR due to their Ground battle effectiveness.
The Q5 will be hopeless against it but the Q5 already doesnt stand a chance against most other strike craft at its own BR and or the F-104’s.
Most 9.7’s are found in the British tree with two Harriers a Jaguar and a Hunter.
Now compare their uptier vs a F-104S which is faster has Flares a good gun but somewhat the same missiles vs a F-104S having to Face Mig29’s, Yak141’s with R27ERS or F14B’s, F16A’s which are faster.
The weapons available to 12.0 are on such a different level vs 11.0 then 10.7 to 9.7 ( except a few cases like the Q5 and T2 )
I Honestly would make the same Argument for E series Phantoms.
Overall as most have been saying for years the BR range needs a drastic increase but gaijin won’t do it.
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Was simply correcting you about the AIim9Ps, didn’t contest the status of if it has flares or not.
joke
From a 104S point of view a F4j can turn
Both are bricks but One Is more brick than the other
The j8b is essentially an enlarged mig21 in shape and flight model, with slightly larger wings proportionally. Its got a better thrust to weight ratio than the bis, and slightly lower wing loading. Overall its pretty much a bis on steroids.
Gaijin please. This thing is unplayable.
Make it 10.7 BR (it really should be)
pls
IMO either change its AIM-9Ps to all aspect AIM-9P4s or make it 10.7.
then move the G down
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Yeah you want to see German G variant makes it cracked again?
well them have them same BR
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Same BR with what?