[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

Well I don’t know what to say. I play on almost maxed out settings with grass turned off only in my gunner view. I don’t get shot through foliage enough to see it as any kind of issue. I do get lucky shots on people myself, through all kinds of foliage.
Sometimes all you need to see is a slight glimpse of a tanks corner. The enemy firing their cannon or MG can give some hint to their position. Movement or engine smoke help in making an educated guess. Even then most shots taken blindly miss, but hey, can’t ever hit if you don’t try.

The spotted marker can also give some indication to which direction to shoot some blind shots into.

Generally though i avoid taking blind shots if i think an enemy might be able to get an idea of my position from me firing my gun.

Hope the m103 is going to 6.7 next update now it has bad armour and a terrible round that struggles vs tiger 2s.

I always said the games not pay to win. I was very wrong

XS, T29 prove 100% that war thunder is pay to win. I hope everyone doesnt forget when they are trying to get pop to play infantry… just remember the grind, the fun detected changes and the zero balance.

They move the hunter - apparently the “best” 9.7 1 BR place higher and now its the worst 10.0 in the game. What even is this game?!


cool, su33, su27, f14D at a 12.0 match. Should have been atleast a 12.7 uptier, but i 13.3 uptier is strange. Mach 5 missele against 12.0, great decision, somethink broke this update with matchmaking

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Which plane are you saying is 13.3?

su33
edit: Sorry, su33, and su27 are 13.0 +14D, but still it is not fair, they have a clear advantage

Yeah, the matchmaker works with a 1 BR range and a max of 4 players on either team can be the top BR. So if you play a 12.0-13.0 match then a max of 4 players on either team can be 13.0 vehicles while all other players are 12.0-12.7.

and the devs are okay with this?

It’s been the case for years so yes

This is intended behaviour yes.

Strange, i had a feeling that something changed, as when inolay F4S, I geg into 11.0 Matches

The br system also allows for downtiers

fair and square

Are we fr

quite frankly I think the m103 is straight better than the conqueror because it’s kind of a volumetric hell to shoot at. you are insane

Its nerfed…

Yet still probably better than the conqueror

I believe as iv not used it but can only moan about tanks iv used

and? The falcon is nerfed and is still dumb as fuck, the BMPT is nerfed and is apparently still dumb as fuck.

All it had was armour though.

19 second reload and cant kill the tiger 2 on test drive is all I need to know. Tiger 2 and M103 should be 6.7 - is there any argument actually about the m103 and not whataboutery?

If you’re trying to upper front plate it that’s a you problem. It has more pen than the 17 pounder’s APDS and that can go through the tiger 2’s turret face. (Let’s ignore the fact that it can just UFP a tiger 2 up close anyway). This is with the solid shot btw, you also have heat-fs which just negates this question entirely