[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

I will waiting for su-30 and f16xl move up to 13.7.

ok but consider: tiger 2 players need to be humbled by getting UFP’d

Sounds like a skill issue tbh. I work 5 days a week, 8 hours a day, and have no issue completing the task within 2-4 hours (depending on how badly my ADHD makes me procrastinate between matches). And we are given 48 hours to complete a single task.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/J8hhw1xDgzQx

I often get such unbalanced teams, but since the last major update, it’s become a real nightmare… What happened to matchmaking? Where’s the balance?..

“Where’s the queue times?” - BVVD

living up to your name

I don’t either, except for event points because of the multiplier. Air RB players are genuine parasites, it’s not remotely fun to have 5 people jump one guy.

Try getting 45k event points with just tier 3 planes without resorting to sim bombing. It’s just not feasible for the average or below average player.

Where is money from su30s

Thank you, i aim to please

I barely run into this issue. Then again i avoid going for the first guy i see, as well as avoid getting into the low altitude furball. Though im not opposed to fighting multiple enemies at once, i welcome the challenge. I also don’t panic and dive low if i see an enemy at a higher altitude than me, learning to fight from a lower energy state is one of the most useful skills. Avoiding headons if at all possible is a good way to keep your plane intact and combat effective longer. And after i’ve dealt with people at altitude, picking off the remains of the furball at the deck is easy work.

Hope you find some of this useful. All i can say is, you learn by doing, what works and what doesn’t. But diving for the first plane you see, or engaging in the furball doesn’t improve your dogfighting skills. It just makes you a target for someone.

Funny you should mention that, Tier 3 and early Tier 4 is where i find most enjoyment, and also the best dogfights. So i tried, and succeeded. Probably like 95% of the points at those tiers.
I think everyone can do it, maybe not easily at the beginning, but everyone can learn.

See I don’t try to dive for the first person I see unless they’re within like 5 kms, I generally either climb or groundpound and, in early jet BRs specifically, people are absolutely parasitic and it’s just miserable. The Vampire being overtiered does not help and the meteor F3, while good, is not really sufficient to compete during the latter parts of events. I’m inconsistent at best even in my best spitfire and I still don’t really know how to aim my cannons to hit things in any thing consistently.

I think having to learn all of this during an event where people are insanely desperate for kills and points is just not fun. Like more than usual I’ll see people diving after dudes with no wings or a single engine fighter that’s on fire. It’s genuinely pathetic.

I actively chose the slow and steady approach over the frustrating and inconsistent approach. I tried to do exclusively fighter stuff for the first few marks and it just got frustrating. I prefer fighter gameplay, but when the goal is to get points consistently, bombing with the sim multiplier is the way to go (and my ass is not learning fighter controls for sim I don’t play the mode for other things)

got my full down tier against germany playing 7.7 britain, got to upper front plate some tiger 2s and panthers with both the conqueror and the 20 pounder’s APDS, yeah I’d say that was a good session. It’s immensely cathartic after all the pain I went through on the initial grind up to where my TT is currently (I’m not playing 8.x until something happens to the t58) to just be able to shoot them in the front with either my 120 or my 84 APDS. I would highly recommend trying out the charioteer if you wanted to do this without relying on getting a downtier. I do not recommend the conway though.

Why does the Brigand B-1 not get the updated damage model despite being classified as a bomber, while lighter and/or smaller aircraft like the Su-8, TIS MA, Tu-1 or A-20s/A-26s do? The He-219 and P-61 also lack the updated model despite being similar in size/weight, but those also aren’t classified as attackers/bombers.

What secret documents did gaijin get to say the the ZTZ96B’s reload rate is 6.7 seconds, when the T-80UE-1s are 6 seconds are way more armored because this game is literally Russian propaganda.

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Probably something like “It would be too effective at hunting other bombers”

I want to know the reason why most rockets, especially big ones, got their distance fuze removed. Probably same answer, would be too effective at taking down bombers.

Not to mention the removal was done in all silence. And when someone bug reported it, the answer was along the lines of “Can you provide documentation to prove they had that option?”

Could Gaijin provide documentation to prove that 99% of bombers were abe to take the kind of punishment they currently take in-game? The pictures of a few catastrophically damaged bombers being able to land isn’t sufficient, those are edge cases, not the majority.

in any just universe maps like single cap hurtgen would actually be a bad thing for the longevity of the game with how godawful they are. Sightlines directly into spawn with easy cover is objectively bad map design. But it’s war thunder so the community is so used to dogshit maps that it just flies under the radar

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Reply to @Yubel2 : That does make sense. Neither bombers nor sim are my things, but it does make sense when grinding for as many points as you can. I will keep that in mind.

Reply to @TheAnnoyingFinn : I agree with you. I do have a skill issue, especially with planes. I am a tanker and I am not skilled at all with planes. Some other points:
/I have no solid high tier jets/premium jets; the best I have playable is my MIG-21 SMT with which I am not ANYTHING close to actually good with. My SU-33 is out of the question; I can’t even properly leave base with that before some AIM Bazillion hits me
/I didn’t get around to playing sim. Mouse joystick hurts my brain badly and I prefer not to go through that for the length of the event.
/I have an internet curfew. In the evening after 10PM it could turn off at any point of time. If this wasn’t the case I would have had both stars.

they weren’t my thing either but I wanted the plane and the sim multiplier made it go by relatively fast

it’s really cool that I’m apparently the only person who plays this game that can’t see an enemy tank through whatever foliage exists on the map. The amount of “sightlines” to points that apparently are only existing for the people on the fucking point is unreal. Am I stupid? Are people cheating? Is there a setting to delete trees? What am I supposed to fucking do.

Sometimes engine smoke or an educated guess based on a earlier glimpse is enough.

Fields of Normandy is famous for having roads that are at slightly lower elevation, giving many tanks less obstructed view from “under” the bushes in gunner view.

You might have to be more specific.

If it was map specific I’d get it but it’s literally every fucking map with significant foliage.