Change the br of the AV-8B (NA) to 10.7 for god's sake

True, but on the Super Mystere that means giving up the missiles and they really are needed, if anything to prevent opponents from accelerating away

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Ah yeah, not always an option unfortunately

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10.7 is too low, if the av8b na and the harrier t10 have to go down 11.0 is as low as they can go. and even so they would be the same br as the sea harrier and the av8s late

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I feel like the main issue is that this whole br area is so horribly compressed

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It is, forget about 7.0-10.0 which is also a complete. 9.7 is just horrific.

The biggest buff the AV-8B(NA) and most of the Harriers could get right now is a decompression.

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the 2nd biggest one is to fix their heat signatures, bc rn they kinda run very hot

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probably not in a harrier but yes in other planes

Yeah…

though that Is probably a gamewide change needed. I seriously doubt they will even acknowledge an issue without precise primary docs that probably dont exist. an attempt was made but the report was rejected citing a lack of sources.

So until such time they stop using thrust for heat. The Harriers are screwed

i remember that one person once used actual nasa documents to prove the F5 was too cold and they rejected it lol

Yeah… When it comes to heat sigs, they only accept reports for soviet aircraft at the moment

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Comparing it with the worst of the worst planes ain’t a great argument. The A-7s needa go down too.

Hu?

FRS1e, FRS1 and AV-8S are all Harrier 1s, they are all direct predecessor to the Harrier IIs, such as the AV-8B(NA) they are precisely the aircraft to compare them too.

Buc S2B as well is perfectly reasonable as a 10.7 that is only at 10.7 because of 2x 9Ls and at the moment, I think id nearly consider the Buc S2B stronger than the FRS1e.

FRS1e and Buc S2B are stuck at 10.7 because they are high subsonic with 9Ls.

FRS1 and AV-8S are direct upgrades over those 2 aircraft as they go from 2x 9Ls to 4x 9Ls and so, stuck at 11.0. (AV-8S also has other upgrades too that if anything place it above the FRS1 at the moment)

AV-8B(NA) is a direct upgrade over the FRS1 and AV-8S (late) with better wing, better engine, better gun, more CMs & Better RWR (compared to the FRS1 case). Etc etc.

TLDR, The AV-8B(NA) belongs 0.3 above the FRS1 and AV-8S (late) Which in turn belong 0,3 above the FRS1e. The FRS1e and the Buc S2B are stuck at 10.7 due to loadout.

There is no way to move the AV-8B(NA) down without either major nerfs for the AV-8B(NA) or massive compression issues.

Though quite frankly, as I said above, its fine at 11.3, its exactly the kind of aircraft that should be at 11.3. The issue… compression and a mass of outstanding bug reports.

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The reason is because you can’t defeat a harrier, right?

The c variant is pure broken for sure

9.0- 9.7 are the worst br for flareless planes that aren’t supersonic…

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More that we don’t need a gen2 harrier with 9Ls at 10.7.

How many planes are there with 9Ls at this br?

Not many, and the few that are here are attackers don’t fly anywhere near as well as a gen2 harrier.

No, I just don’t like America players ;)

11.0 sure works for me