CAS second spawn multiplier reduction

Sinai?
image

Where cover from plane?

And give me an example of a map that’s screw over planes.

1 Like

Trading a 100sp vehicle with a 600sp vehicle is an amazing deal.

F*cking taking it out of context after 3 back and forths again. I was replying to someone saying to full brake. And then you come in and start going in a different direction.

Yes because people realise it gives away their position and is unlikely to be very effective.

He is gonna say you can hide behid a rock or something. Also Sinai is the worst example since planes can literally fly bellow the actual ground map and hide from even radar spaa.

38th parallel I can think of or maybe sweden. But those are not really screwing you over just making you rethink your approach.

1 Like

You forgot to add Flanders do.

1 Like

They weren’t saying you should always brake, as you seem to be implying.

No, it’s plenty effective. People just realize CAS is barely even a threat.

Not to mention Iberian castle and every urban or snow map.

But braking is almost never the preferable option anyway.

I see plenty of US mains constantly spraying their .50 cals into the air at all tiers. Players who don’t have roof .50 cals AKA the majority realise that 7.62 and similar are ineffective against planes and thus dont bother.

What exactly is the issue for CAS on that map? The 20% of the map that is the town???

Makes it even easier to spot tanks so I don’t really see your point. Maybe you are like my friend who plays at full brightness on an OLED monitor in complete darkness and flashbang yourself with snow maps??

1 Like

There’s plenty of times where braking is preferable. You just need to learn to properly counter CAS.

I only see one or two above rank 3.

The wide open fields and waters that surround the battlefield.

Not really. It makes spotting planes even more braindead easy however, and makes SAM smoke near invisible.

Give an example then.

Your own fault for not looking. Everytime I either spawn a plane (be it CAS or CAP) or someone else does the sky fills with .50 cal tracers so I have no idea what youa re on about.

And how exactly is that an issue for CAS???

Planes against the sky is irrelevant of the map you play on. Also I forgot about your infatuation with SAM SPAA.

You’re driving foward, a plane games to drop a bomb, you stop, bomb lands Infront of you and deals no damage.

I shouldn’t have to give an example for something so obvious.

Lmao 🤣

So me observing more players shooting at planes at rank 2-3 more than at rank 4+ is apparently my fault?

Honestly, not even surprising coming from Herojure24.

Cant hide behind hills or ridges which makes surprise attacks (the thing you claim 7.3s should do to counter 1980s SPAA) near impossible.

Can’t use hills to block view from SAMs so unless you’re in a fast and agile plane, you’re pretty much screwed.

Contrails (which are almost entirely pseudo sci-fi anyways) put a massive beacon on planes as soon as they spawn.

Oh yeah, I forgot you believe SAMs should be undodgable, unflarable, invisible, and unlimited.

We have so many city and forest maps, and combined ones.

You are to get shot by driving in the open anyways.

Ok now switch the choice to DshK/NSVT, or delete it cuz I’m Ger main.

1 Like

If the bomb is dropped well and has a short fuse this will often not help.

Iberian castle offers more than enough areas for planes to hide from SPAA. Dusregarding the top tier missile ones.

Here you go again making stuff up. I never claimed any of that. You just decided I did. I mainly stay out of SAM SPAA BRs because I prefer playing 7.0 to 8.7. So when I think of SPAA I think more of SPAAG and jot SAMs.

But we also have open maps like fire arc, sinai, sands of sinai, maginot…

Going fast enough makes the risk lower.

Aight. But many german tanls don’t have .50 cals either.

1 Like

It works all the time. The issue, again, is simply a skill issue.

Nope. A hill surrounded by open fields and the ocean gives no good places for CAS to hide. Just like some maps are better for CAS, some maps are worse for CAS. For some reason, you don’t wanna admit that a map could ever give any difficulty to CAS since that just doesn’t fit your narrative.

Except you literally have. You’ve complained that the Gepard 1A2 doesn’t have enough missiles, and that the Stinger is weak because it can be dodged.

So what? Driving out in the open just isn’t a good idea. If you get bombed or started, it’s not cause CAS is OP, it’s cause you were doing something dumb.

Sure, whatever let’s assume that a tank going 40kph can avoid any bomb just by braking.
How often is it that you are going this fast? Not much I assume.

You are only moving near your max speed when spawning and getting to the combat zone, or when you try to relocate from an objective to the next, or any spot on the map.
Whenever you are engaged in combat, this means at least 70% of the game, WT is about slowing advancing to defuse the enemy team.

And this is exactly where you will get a bomb to the head, cause you are obviously on near contested zone, making noise and visual clue, something getting hit by mg’s marking you on the map and screen for every plane in the sky.

Again, 90% of time you get killed by CAS come from those occasion:
→ Capping a point.
→ Fighting tanks near a capture point / contested spot
→ Exiting the spawn.
→ Revenge bomb if you were

Note how the only one were you are going fast enough to “hard brake” is when exiting the spawn.

Oh sure, let me hard brake at when I’m behind a building/rock at 0kph. This will obviously save me from a bomb.

He did tho, it’s quite easy to read I though? Did you learn it?

Also to that I would add

It’s insane you are literally making the same discussion again and again and again.
And every time you are proven wrong, you ignore it, only to repeat the exact same thing later or in another topic.

1 Like

Bait used to be believable

Have you even been reading this thread for the past hours???

I literally mentioned maps which make it more difficult for CAS.

I think in your rabies induced fury you might have mistaken me with someone else. I don’t remember ever commenting on stingers and the gepards lack thereof. I don’t have the gepard so I refrain from commenting on it. The only unguided SAM I have is the santal.

Well how do I put this so you will understand?

There are maps like maginot, fire arc, fields of Poland which don’t allow you to do anything or get anywhere without crossing open ground.

I don’t know why I even commented anywhere near this guy’s area of arguments. I know his modus operandi and yet I still let myself be dragged into arguing with him. I even managed to go about a month or so of ignoring him straight up.

The biggest issue is he claims some wild stuff because he seemingly lacks object permanence and forgets about older comments.

I think kt might have been this thread where I went back and spent like 1-2 hours combing through replies to estabilish people’s stances on the topic because he could not be convinved that “the majority of people agree with pangolin” was simply not the fact. He just disregarded everything and kept going on about how most people on the forums agree with reverting the changes.

1 Like

You do realize you dont need to stop in EVERY situation right? This is why you keep getting bombed. You fail to adapt to your situation.

Lol, every time you’re proven wrong it must be bait.

Yes, and you for some reason denied that snow maps and Iberian castle make it hard for CAS.

  1. You have stated it directly.

  2. You have agreed with people who stated it.

Poland is 50% urban.

Maginot and Fire arc are just bad maps. That’s not a CAS issue.

And this lets you generalise my stance on this issue to say I don’t think any maps make it harder for CAS despite me clearly stating some maps that I think do make it harder?

Find and link that comment of mine and I will concede. Untill then you’re just making shit up.

Again provide proof.

Do you need to go back to 1st grade of primary school? I said FIELDS of Poland. Quite a difference between that and regular Poland

This is so incoherent I have a hard time understanding what you are trying to say.

Are you driving in circle on the capture points so that CAS doesn’t drop a bomb on you. There is no “adapting to the situation”. 90% of the time you are slow or at a stop.

And compared to you, I will actually back this claim:

This is a spreadsheet of me looking at a random video from spookstoon, I will report the speed of his tank every 30s.
I took a medium tank, I never even played this one (you can check my profile to confim). The reason I took a medium to not have bias in relation to speed and acceleration. If I wanted to check I’d took a Maus.


image

Again, as you can see, you are very rarely going fast enough to brake for a bomb.

5 Likes

0 reading comprehension.

Lol, denying what you said before cause you know it makes you look dumb.

I actually agree, make 2nd cas spawn cheaper. My Ta-152H has to eat and hunting open tops is not why I have this plane in my lineup.

1 Like