CAS second spawn multiplier reduction

Fair

Like you, I’d be very interested in seeing the result.

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Why not take cover, Why not hard brake, Why not Roof 50cal, Why not accept the difference in SP?

Note that bombs are already nerfed. A bit dodging can make it from a kill to a suppression.

Pretty much the same thing but difference techniques, and balances shifts a bit to plane side for the SP. Planes aren’t easy to shoot but they never block a path, never push to a nuke like ground, and have limited strike attempts with exiting and reentering time in between. Note yak9UT is not on the list that ground shell is unbalancable.

Some players die less to planes for a reason.

Maybe try playing the early-mid cold war BRs before reading the CAS hate again. Wonder if you can see any flying thing getting a kill xD. Usually there can be ~1 plane spawned per match on average.

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Some maps don’t offer any usable cover.

and lose all my speed enabling someone else to shot me?

Tell me you’re a US main without telling me you’re a US main.

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That’s straight up false.

So that’s why you keep dying to CAS. You refuse to do the most basic things cause you don’t wanna die to someone that doesn’t exist.

The fact that you’re not even willing to admit that one of these is a legitimate counter is very telling on the kind of person you are.

Anything that doesn’t fit the narrative of CAS being an unstoppable force and tanks being defenseless must be false.

It’s not though. Some maps really have no cover that is good enough to protect you from planes.

Well if I am moving across a field at top speed and a plane starts strafing me stopping really does not do me any good whatsoever. I make myself an easy target for other tanks and also don’t really prevent the plane from strafing me in the first place. The player just has to slightly adjust aim.

How did I imply it not being an effective counter? I could have clarified but you should have been able to deduce that info yourself. Many tabks don’t even have a roof mg at all. And most that have one a puny rifle caliber one that does fuckall to planes apart from revealing your position.

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Literally every single map has adequate cover for tanks. It might not always be the most convenient, but there’s also plenty of maps that screw over planes.

You do realize you can do more than just stop, right?

And you really see people use em on the vehicles that do. Once you hit rank 4, people just don’t bother 50.cal’ing planes anymore.

It’s not even a effective counter. Yes it will allows you to kill the CAS engine and maybe set it on fire, but more often that not the CAS stay alive long enough to finish his dive and drop his bomb.

Bravo, your best counter, that’s only in some US tanks (and some USSR ones) can at best give you a tie.

Sinai?
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Where cover from plane?

And give me an example of a map that’s screw over planes.

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Trading a 100sp vehicle with a 600sp vehicle is an amazing deal.

F*cking taking it out of context after 3 back and forths again. I was replying to someone saying to full brake. And then you come in and start going in a different direction.

Yes because people realise it gives away their position and is unlikely to be very effective.

He is gonna say you can hide behid a rock or something. Also Sinai is the worst example since planes can literally fly bellow the actual ground map and hide from even radar spaa.

38th parallel I can think of or maybe sweden. But those are not really screwing you over just making you rethink your approach.

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You forgot to add Flanders do.

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They weren’t saying you should always brake, as you seem to be implying.

No, it’s plenty effective. People just realize CAS is barely even a threat.

Not to mention Iberian castle and every urban or snow map.

But braking is almost never the preferable option anyway.

I see plenty of US mains constantly spraying their .50 cals into the air at all tiers. Players who don’t have roof .50 cals AKA the majority realise that 7.62 and similar are ineffective against planes and thus dont bother.

What exactly is the issue for CAS on that map? The 20% of the map that is the town???

Makes it even easier to spot tanks so I don’t really see your point. Maybe you are like my friend who plays at full brightness on an OLED monitor in complete darkness and flashbang yourself with snow maps??

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There’s plenty of times where braking is preferable. You just need to learn to properly counter CAS.

I only see one or two above rank 3.

The wide open fields and waters that surround the battlefield.

Not really. It makes spotting planes even more braindead easy however, and makes SAM smoke near invisible.

Give an example then.

Your own fault for not looking. Everytime I either spawn a plane (be it CAS or CAP) or someone else does the sky fills with .50 cal tracers so I have no idea what youa re on about.

And how exactly is that an issue for CAS???

Planes against the sky is irrelevant of the map you play on. Also I forgot about your infatuation with SAM SPAA.

You’re driving foward, a plane games to drop a bomb, you stop, bomb lands Infront of you and deals no damage.

I shouldn’t have to give an example for something so obvious.

Lmao 🤣

So me observing more players shooting at planes at rank 2-3 more than at rank 4+ is apparently my fault?

Honestly, not even surprising coming from Herojure24.

Cant hide behind hills or ridges which makes surprise attacks (the thing you claim 7.3s should do to counter 1980s SPAA) near impossible.

Can’t use hills to block view from SAMs so unless you’re in a fast and agile plane, you’re pretty much screwed.

Contrails (which are almost entirely pseudo sci-fi anyways) put a massive beacon on planes as soon as they spawn.

Oh yeah, I forgot you believe SAMs should be undodgable, unflarable, invisible, and unlimited.

We have so many city and forest maps, and combined ones.

You are to get shot by driving in the open anyways.

Ok now switch the choice to DshK/NSVT, or delete it cuz I’m Ger main.

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If the bomb is dropped well and has a short fuse this will often not help.

Iberian castle offers more than enough areas for planes to hide from SPAA. Dusregarding the top tier missile ones.

Here you go again making stuff up. I never claimed any of that. You just decided I did. I mainly stay out of SAM SPAA BRs because I prefer playing 7.0 to 8.7. So when I think of SPAA I think more of SPAAG and jot SAMs.

But we also have open maps like fire arc, sinai, sands of sinai, maginot…

Going fast enough makes the risk lower.

Aight. But many german tanls don’t have .50 cals either.

It works all the time. The issue, again, is simply a skill issue.

Nope. A hill surrounded by open fields and the ocean gives no good places for CAS to hide. Just like some maps are better for CAS, some maps are worse for CAS. For some reason, you don’t wanna admit that a map could ever give any difficulty to CAS since that just doesn’t fit your narrative.

Except you literally have. You’ve complained that the Gepard 1A2 doesn’t have enough missiles, and that the Stinger is weak because it can be dodged.

So what? Driving out in the open just isn’t a good idea. If you get bombed or started, it’s not cause CAS is OP, it’s cause you were doing something dumb.