Bug report collection of German Vehicles

[Dontkev]

A Thread for mostly our Bug reports from the German Armor Discord Server (Feel free to Join^^)

Updated as of 2.38.0.15

Feel free to post more bug reports, I will Add then to the Collection

IMPORTENT: I Need the Links for then…

Begleitpanzer 57

Suggestion

• Begleitpanzer 57 missing HOT missiles

Fixed

• Begleitpanzer 57 engine, transmission, top speed

Not a Bug

• Incorrect change to Begleitpanzer 57 engine power on DEV server

Vilkas/Boxer

Suggestion

• Vilkas missing spall liner

No Label

• Vilkas underperforming armor

Fixed

• Vilkas steering angle

• [DEV] Invissible Spike ATGM on the Vilkas

• Vilkas blowout panel removes hull ammo

• Vilkas turret hit results in overpressure

• [DEV] Vilkas Commander Sight is bugged

FlaRakRad MAN 8x8

No Label

• FlaRakRad MAN 8x8 KAT1 Wrong Engine + Wrong Transmission
• FlaRakRad MAN 8x8 Kat 1 transmission

• FlaRakRad Wrong Radar angles displayed

Fixed

• Roland SAM system bugged firing animation
• Roland SAM system missing Reload animation

Leopard 1

Acknowledged

• Leopard 1 NVG model wrong

• Leopard C2A1 MEXAS missing spall liner

• C2A1 - Incorrect Name

Suggestion

• Leopard 1 and variants missing engine name

• Leopard 1 and variants missing transmission name

• Leopard C2A1 MEXAS incorrect crew language

• Leopard C2A1 MEXAS missing commander’s C6 GPMG

Leopard 2

Suggestion

• Leopard 2 and variants missing transmission name

• Leopard 2 and variants missing transmission name

• DM43 120 mm incorrect name

• Leopard 2A5/2A6/2A7V underperforming turret protection

• Leopard 2A5/2A5 PSO/2A6/2A7V. hull roof armor parts not volumetric

• Leopard 2PL missing spall liners

• Leopard 2 PSO missing hull spall liner

• PT16/T14 mod. - Missing turret composite armour

Acknowledgeg

• Leopard 2A7Vs mantlet DM issue: less protection than 2A7HUs.

• Leopard 2A7Vs optic channel DM & protection issue.

• Leopard 2A7V underperforming frontal turret CE protection.

• Leopard 2A7V turret neck protector and turret ring issue

• Leopard 2A7V left cheek composite armor sitting too high

• Leopard 2A7V missing spall liners.

• Leopard 2A7V missing DM73 APFSDS shell.

• Leopard 2A7V hull armour

• Leopard 2A7V missing PELE ammunition

• Leopard 2 PSO lack of internal side composite.

• Leopard 2 PSO underperforming hull armour

• Leopard 2A7V’s - spall liner bug.

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Not Applied

• PT-16/T14 commander and gunner placement and angle

• Leopard 2k gunner placement and angle

• Leopard 2A7V Spall Liner issue

• Leopard 2A7V/A6/PSO Spall liner/Hatch issue

Fixed

• Leopard 2A7V duel add-on armour not ricocheting APFSDS.

• DM11 (L/44) incorrect muzzle velocity

• Leopard 2A7V cradle clipping through the turret ring → Its market as Fixed, but actually nothing has changed

• Leopard 2A7V right cheek composite and optics X-ray model

• Leopard 2A7V turret ring protection not modeled

• [DEV] Leopard 2A4M CAN uses incorrect thermals.

• [DEV] Leopard 2A4M incorrect damage model

• Leopard 2A7V back hull armor. Not modeled/missing

• Leopard 2A7V model has transparent parts

Not a Bug

• Leopard 2A7V et al (2A5/2A6/PSO) - excessive spall generation.

• [DEV]Leopard 2A4M CAN is missing bulldozer blade

• [DEV]Leopard 2A4M CAN - Incorrect name for the C6 Machine guns

• Leopard 2A7V et al (2A5/2A6/PSO) - excessive spall generation.
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Puma IFV

Acknowledgeg

• (DEV)Issue with the Reworked MUSS IRCM

• PUMA should not be in all caps

Suggestion

• (DEV) PUMA VJTF should not be in Caps

• [DEV] Puma VJTF Spike 2 LR Penetration Underperforming

• Ahead ammunition ( small spall cone and missing fragments)

• Puma IFV Missing Engine name

• [[2.14.0.29] Puma IFV’s KLARA ERA provides too little protection.]([2.14.0.29] Puma IFV's KLARA ERA provides too little protection. - Documented Ground Suggestions - War Thunder - Official Forum
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• [2.14.0.30] Puma IFV upper frontal plate should be a NERA array:

• Puma IFV’s armour blocks are modelled as structural steel

• [2.14.0.30] Puma IFV lacks NERA plates beneath the CLARA ERA.

• puma-ifv-no-missile-launch-warning

• Puma IFV the entire roof composite seems to be missing.

• Puma IFV UFP is currently just a single 5mm steel plate

• Puma IFV AHEAD penetration

• Puma IFV roof armor (AMAP-R) does not offer projection against EFPs

• PUMA IFV - inaccurate gun.

• [2.14.0.30] Puma IFV turret lacks its NERA array

• [2.14.0.39] Protection of Puma’s side-composite blocks is too low on the dev server.]([2.14.0.39] Protection of Puma's side-composite blocks is too low on the dev server. - Documented Ground Suggestions - War Thunder - Official Forum)

• Puma’s frontal (lower & upper plates) protection bug.

No Label

• PUMA VJTF/S1 blowout pannels

• Puma VJFT & S0 UFP armor is mismodeled

not a bug

• PMC308 Incorrect Penetration

• Puma IFV Engine Sound

Fixed

• [DEV] Puma S1 Spike Missiles not Changing Elevation when aiming

• [DEV] Puma VJTF Invinsible Mells

• [DEV] Puma S1 Spike Missiles not Working with APFSDS

• revisiting PUMA IFV AHEAD munition

• Puma IFV AHEAD splash radius

• PUMA MUSS system is not working as intended

• PMC287 long-rod has incorrect mass

Ozelot

No Label

• The Ozelot should have a MG 3

KF-41 Lynx

Acknowledgeg

• KF-41 StrikeShield aps underperforming

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Arado 234 B-2

Arado 234 B-2
Dublicate

• Unfunctional sight

Fixed
[1.97.1.40] Missing Drag Chute for Arado 234 (more than 4 Years ago)

Su-17M4 and Su-22M4

Su-17M4/Su-22M4
Suggestion

• Missing Option for mixed Loadouts

Alpha Jet A

Acknowledged

• Alpha Jet A missing RWR

Suggestion

• Alpha Jet A missing access to CRV7 rockets

Not a bug

• Alpha Jet A incorrect engine

• Alpha Jet A should have SNECMA Turbomeca Larzac 04-C20

Fixed

• The main thruster does not work on Alpha Jet A

• Alpha Jet A missing chaff and flare dispensers

• Alpha Jet A missing Rocket dual rack

• Alpha Jet A should have SNECMA Turbomeca Larzac 04-C6

• Alpha Jet A Missing single drop for M117A2 Firebombs

G.91 R/3,R/4

Suggestion

• G.91 R/3 missing AS-30 Nord AGM

• G.91 R/3 missing AGM-12B Bullpup AGM

• G.91 R/3 missing LAU-32 rocket launcher

• G.91 R/3 incorrect maximum weapons load weight

• G.91 R/4 incorrect maximum weapons load weight

Fixed

• G.91 R/3 missing Matra 25E 250 kg bombs

• G.91 R/3 missing LAU-51 rocket launcher

• G.91 R/3 should be able to use its ordnance on any pylon

• G.91 R/3 missing M116A1 750 lb fire bombs

Mig-29G

Acknowledged

• MiG-29G HUD wrong localization

• MiG-29G Cockpit Inaccuracies

Suggestion

• German MiG-29G incorrect pilot model

• MiG-29G missing R-60MK

Fixed

• MiG-29G lumpy/pixilated textures

• MiG-29G missing Voice Warning System [DEV SERVER]

Not a bug

• MiG-29G missing R-60MK missiles

Tornado IDS

Acknowledgeg

• Tornado IDS Loadout Issue

• Missing SRC/BVR-Mode with the ARI 23274 Radar

• Tornado IDS Ground Mapping Radar detection range too short

• Placeholder FM (Applies to all Tornado´s)

Suggestion

• Tornado IDS WTD 61 missing GBU-24 and GBU-54

• Missing HUD Symbology (Applies to All Tornados)

Fixed

• Tornado IDS RWR Issue in Cockpit

• Missing 600 chaff per BOZ pod (Internally Report/Bug report collection of German Vehicles - #9 by Gunjob)

F-104G

Acknowledgeg

• F-104G and F-104S missing automatic radar gun lead (EEGS)

Suggestion

• German F-104G missing Doppellastträger (DLT) (WIP)

• German F-104G missing AS.34 Kormoran anti-ship missile

• German F-104G missing LAU-51 rocket launchers

• German F-104G missing AIM-9L

• F-104A / C / G / S / ASA missing IRST system

Fixed

• German F-104G missing MK-84 bomb

• German and Italian F-104Gs missing RWR antennas

• German F-104G incorrect engine specifications

• German F-104G missing underside anti-collision light

F-4F

Acknowledged

• F-4F Peace Rhine lacking AGM-65D and AGM-65G Maverick missile

Suggestion

• F-4F missing Aim-9L

• German F-4F (all variants) missing AN/ALE-38 Chaff Dispenser

• German F-4F (all variants) missing Matra 250 kg retarded bombs

• German F-4F (all variants) missing BLU-27/B fire bombs

• German F-4F (all variants) missing BLU-1/B fire bombs

No Label
F-4F cannot deploy brake chute while airborne

F-4F M-61 vulcan should have two fire rate settings

Fixed

• F-4F Early missing access to CCIP

• F-4F Early missing access to CCRP

F-4F KWS LV / ICE

Acknowledgeg

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV incorrect exterior view cockpit model

Suggestion

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV incorrect centreline drop tank

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV missing BLU-1/B fire bombs

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV missing Matra 250 bombs

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV missing AIM-120B AMRAAM

No Label

• F-4F KWS-LV ICE-43 skin marking Issue

Fixed

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV misplaced target selector window of radar UI

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV incorrect cockpit class tint (Merged with model inaccuracies)

• [DEV] F-4F KWS-LV (ICE) has a wrong HUD (duplicate)

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV anti-collision light incorrect

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV additional model inaccuracies

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV model inaccuracies part 3

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV incorrect radar

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV skin inaccuracies

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV model inaccuracies

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV missing access to AGM-65D

• [DEV] F-4F ICE Missing Aim-9L/I

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV Radar X-Ray view model is wrong.

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV incorrect radar warning receiver

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV missing CCIP for guns, rockets, and bombs
  Dublicate

• [DEV] F-4F KWS-LV (ICE) has a wrong HUD

Not a Bug

• [DEV]F-4F KWS-LV (ICE) Missing Target attack indication

• [DEV] F-4F KWS LV missing AIM-2000 IRIS-T

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Tiger UHT

Acknowledged

• Option to take 144 countermeasures

• Incorrect sight position

• Inability to guide missiles near terrain

• Lack of dual flight controls

• PARS 3 LR incorrect missile behaviour

• PARS 3 LR missing proximity fuse

• PARS 3 LR incorrect maximum range

Suggestion

• Incorrect rockets for the FZ225 rocket launchers

• FZ225 rocket launchers for the outer pylons

• TDA 68mm rocket launchers

• Tiger UHT missing rockets on outer pylons

• Tiger UHT using incorrect rocket type

• PARS 3 LR twin launcher for the outer pylons (labelled as not a bug, but still open internally)

• NC621 20mm cannon pods (labelled as not a bug, but still open internally)

• Mistral ATAM for the outer pylons (labelled as not a bug, but still open internally)

No Label

• EC-665 Tiger UHT MFD 2 Issue

Fixed

• Incorrect ARL-400 Band Coverage

• PARS 3 LR incorrect lateral acceleration (Just missing the Fixed Label)

• PARS 3 LR incorrect weight

• Tiger UHT and HAD engine name inaccuracy

• FN M3P machine gun incorrect ammunition amount

• Missing helmet mounted sight

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Other

Ammunition

Acknowledgeg

• the 10,5 cm Pzgr. Rot (Apcbc) StuH 42 G

• 7,5 cm Gr.38 HL/B wrong penetration.

• DM43 incorrect velocity.

Suggestion

• Puma IFV AHEAD splash radius

• Leopard 2A7V missing PELE ammunition

• Sprengbombe Cylindrisch & Spezialbombe 2500 (SB & SC 2500)

• 30mm I-T Pzbrsprgr L’Spur missing penetration

• 3 cm I grenade Mk 101, 103

No Label

• Pz II Ausf.C Main Armor Too short.

• StuH 42 G missing F.H.Gr. Fern

• Dicker Max Pzgr. incorrectly given and Pzgr. Rot (Ei) (APBC) missing instead.

• T-34 747 (r) missing German ammo.

• 7,5 cm Pzgr.40(W) (APBC) missing

• 5 cm Pzgr.40 too light (and too slow for L/60 guns)

• 15mm Mg 151/15 H-Pzgr Too slow

• 2 cm KwK 38 L/65 Wrong name

• 2 cm KwK 30 L/50 Wrong name

• 7,62 cm Pzgr. 39 Rot too slow

• 7,5 cm KwK/Pak 40 missing Gr.38 Hl/C

• 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/43 Velocity

• 7,62 cm Gr.38 Hl/C missing penetration.

• 5 cm Pzgr.39 wrong weight

• 3 cm Mk 101/103 Pzbrsprgr. L’Spur (ApI-T) Wrong

• 7,5 cm Gr. 38 HL/b Penetration

• 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/43 Velocity

• 7,5 cm KwK and Pak 40 missing Gr.38 Hl/C

• 30mm Mk 101/103 I-T grenade wrong type and missing armor

• VT-1 max range and statcard data

• [DEV-Server] 5 cm Minengeschoss missing name and wrong.

• StuH 42 G missing F.H.Gr. F (Fern)

Info Requested

• HTA and Torpex Explosive power

Not a Bug

• DM53 APFSDS has a wrong density.

Fixed

• Typo on the Spike LR2

HUD/UI Bug Reports

Acknowledged

• DDR / West German symbols reverted back to outdated WWII one.

• Wrong Insignias on the German client

No Labels

• Rocket impact point displayed inside the plane
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[Morvran]

@Dontkev

Tornado IDS

Also got:

• Missing 600 chaff per BOZ pod
• Placeholder FM

[Dontkev]

will add then later, when I fint a link to a report about the IDS…

[Dontkev]

do have Link to these reports?

[Morvran]

There is an F3 one which is kinda Tornado overall one:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/lrYODXRjD4XF

Tornados are all missing leading edge wing slats. So F3 and IDS are equally effected by it. Though exact numbers would differ a little.

I think CMs is an internal one. At least Ive never seen it.

[Dontkev]

@Morvran

I think CMs is an internal one

thats the same which we also know of, but we were trying to link all of these stuff^^

[Morvran]

Maybe @Gunjob can provide some of the bug reports for it?

[Dontkev]

allready wrote with him on DC, we will use the F.3 reports since it applies to ALL Tornados

[Gunjob]

Yeah the BOZ-107 report is an internal one of mine.

Spoiler

Bonus I own a BOZ-107 control panel;

Spoiler

The Tornado G loading report might say F.3 on the CBR side, but internally its for all Tornado’s with graphs for F.3, GR.1 and PA-200. Using 4 different manuals, 3 RAF and 1 IAF.

[Dontkev]

@Gunjob

Bonus I own a BOZ-107 control panel;

thats a VERY wierd flex xDDDD

[Gunjob]

I cannot be trusted with an ebay account haha.

[Dontkev]

lul XD

[Armen_Lozone]

if u want u can take all of these…

Wishlist for Bugs and missing features (WIP) + Proposed Solutions

USA

M4A5 Name

Incorrect/outdated name: Correction → Ram II <a href="https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/rRjHUKbxG2sb" class="inline-onebox" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">Community Bug Reporting System</a>

HSTV-L

A butt load… thanks to @Spookston <a href="https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?%2Ftopic%2F499110-26-09-2020-hstv-l-xm885-incorrect-performance%2F" class="inline-onebox" rel="noopener nofollow ugc…

i cant keep this updated sigh

[Dontkev]

thats why we focus only about the german ones, otherwise its just too much+ we linked then, this also reduces it allready much

[Morvran]

Yeah, I struggle with just keeping challenger 2 updated 🤣

[Armen_Lozone]

yeah fr,
anyway heres the german related ones

Spoiler

Germany

15in Armed Vessels

• Unrealistic accuracy: Shell dispersion massively increased for 15in guns

30mm Mk 103

• Incorrect statistics and performace: 30mm I-T Pzbrsprgr L’Spur
  Community Bug Reporting System
  Community Bug Reporting System

Arado 234 B-2 Sight

• Unfunctional sight
  Community Bug Reporting System

AHEAD Ammunition Functionality

• AA Functionality
  Community Bug Reporting System

• Penetration
  https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/58urYJj2VIvF

C2A1 Name

• Incorrect/outdated name: Correction → C2 Mexas
  Community Bug Reporting System

Gepard Auxiliary Power Unit

• Model + functionality
  Community Bug Reporting System

Kab-500Kr for Su-22 M4

• Missing Weapon
  Community Bug Reporting System

Klen Laser designator Vertical limits

• The vertical max limit for the Klen is inconsistent between FPP and TPP
  Community Bug Reporting System

Leopard 2 series bugs list (2)

Leopard 2 and its prototypes - Inaccuracies and Discussion
Leopard 2A7V discussion & bugs

Loadout restriction on Su-22 M4

• TV guided and laser guided cannot be mounted simultaneously
  Community Bug Reporting System

MUSS APS Functionality

Community Bug Reporting System

MiG-21 HUD Functionality

• Radar and Missile Lock display
  Community Bug Reporting System

Pz III Ausf. B-J turret traverse speed

• Incorrect traverse rate
  Community Bug Reporting System

SC50 to SC1800Kg bombs

• Incorrect Filling: Lacking/wrong explosive compounds
  German bombs SC50 to SC1800 filling - #23 by GHOST_KING5710

Spike ATGMs

Spike ATGMs Suck, and So Will the PUMA Spike Upgrade

Tiger UHT Sight

• Misalignment
  Community Bug Reporting System

Tiger UHT Name

• Incorrect/outdated name: Correction → Tiger KHT or KH Tiger
  Community Bug Reporting System

Tiger UHT loadout

• Missing capability to mount rockets on outer pylons
  
  

Tornado (All)

• Incomplete FM: Missing Leading edge slats functionality
  Community Bug Reporting System
• Incomplete CM count: Missing 600 chaff drops per BOZ pod (underwing mount)
• Incomplete radar: Ground radar
• Incomplete external stores: Air to ground weapons
• Incomplete cockpit model: Missing some functionality

Tornado IDS ASSTA.1

• Incorrect TGP resolution: Generation 1

[Morvran]

Minor one, but starting to get kinda old.

For the tornado

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/nugZ361FLvcc

[Dontkev]

luckly we have allready mostly of then in the list, and the ASSTA 1 one is fixed^^

[Armen_Lozone]

it was supposed to be this low?
sigh

[Dontkev]

fixed, like fixed
its now using the proper Gen
uses now Gen.2
https://thunderview.net/air-thermals/