Mig-29 lacks the flight performance to deal with an F-15A played at equal skill level.
@ChorizoBlanco
Also why are you trying to rate fight?
Stop with the strawman fallacies dude.
Su-27 is inferior to F-2A, that isn’t my opinion.
And no, Mig-29s cannot win against F-15As when skill is equal.
I get you love rate fighting at top tier, but it’s bad to do so.
And if you don’t love rate fighting, stop bringing it up all the time.
Of course, in a dogfight the MiG-29 will lose, but you have ERs and the R-73. As long as you get a good position on the approach, the F-15A will have to deal with an R-73 from the rear aspect.
“Forget the F-15A’s four AIM-7s — they’re useless, not even worth notching. So you can imagine the kind of position the MiG-29G will be able to approach the F-15A from.
And for heaven’s sake, I’m talking about positional advantage when using missiles — this isn’t a proper dogfight.
It doesn’t lack the performance to win a 1-circle fight against an F15A of equal skill. The F15 can only win in a prolonged dog fight as it loses the 1-circle fight, which again, being better in a 1-circle is much better in RB since you are not in a true 1v1 most of the time.
Not trying to rate fight, I’m saying that rate fighting is the only way in which an F15 has any chance to win against against a MiG 29.
SU27 is superior by RB standards and the meta, the 27ER is a in a whole different league to anything F2A or 15A have.
Eh, my only problem with the F-2 is how many of them seem to be at every 13.0 lobby, can’t go 5 minutes in my C.10 without seeing “F2” on my RWR.
They’re not necessarily bad players, just annoying to deal with due to their insane missile kit and AESA radar, if anything, Hornets are much more annoying in my opinion.
And if the F-15A is playing of equal skill, the R-73s are from the front aspect.
@ChorizoBlanco
Being better in “the 1 circle” which you’re using as a buzzword, means dumping all of your energy and dying to a 3rd party.
No one “1 circles” in air RB except when there are no enemies left for good reason.
That will never happen. As long as the MiG-29G still has ERs, the F-15A only has two choices: notch or fly close to the ground. And no matter which option it picks, the MiG-29G’s approach angle will always be from the side or the rear.
Brother, nobody turn fights in RB period unless they are forced to because as I’ve been saying before, you will most certainly get killed by a third party. You are the only one that brings up 1v1; in a real 1v1, the F15A has no chance to win an engagement against a 27ER period, there won’t be a turn fight. And if there is a turn fight, it’s better to be able to win it in a single turn and go on your way, than having to turn for ages until you get an advantage, the latter being the only way in which an F15A will win against MiG 29.
Multipathing means I’m heading directly at the Mig-29, they can’t get rear from front aspect.
@ChorizoBlanco
Buddy, nobody turn fights in RB, because as I’ve said before, you’re going to be third partied.
Stop bringing up turn fights. No one else is.
Did you forget that I’ll have the altitude advantage?
Even if you use multipath and head directly toward the MiG-29, the altitude advantage will still turn it into a side or rear aspect. Because MIG29 will go down with ERs, so F15A cant pick up
I didn’t bring turn fight, you brought it when you claimed the 29G can’t beat the 15A, but you haven’t even mentioned what would the F15A need to do to actually achieve it. Spoilers? Nothing an F15A can do against and equally skilled 29G player. I don’t know what else you could possibly mean by 29G not having the performance to win against a F15A.
Then why is the F15A on place 11 on Willie’s 1v1 sheet and the Mig29 is on the last place?
Don’t know man, why is F15A lower in my list than MiG 29 then?
Altitude advantage only matters for jets without >1:1 TWRs.
@ChorizoBlanco
Weird, there are zero results of me talking about turn fighting other than dismissing you bringing it up.
The only people that brought up rate fighting and turn fighting are you and YouRememberLove. No one else did.
Well Willie is a great 1v1 duelist. And you?
The altitude advantage is for getting a clean approach angle. The MiG-29 isn’t using altitude for energy — it’s using altitude to get the optimal approach position to employ the R-73.
Yeah, sure. By the way, my list is not about aircraft with a clean configuration doing 1v1 guns-only in a controlled environment, I play RB and SB.
Okay, what did you mean by 29G not having the performance to win against a F15A? I’m listening, the mic is yours. In what scenario is performance going to decide a winner?
That MIG29SMT, and they place by FM.
If the ER is used at the right moment, the F-15A will always be forced into a bad position during the approach. The fight will be decided within half circle — if the MiG-29G can’t finish the F-15A within that first half-circle, it will lose.
It’s all the Mig29s? And yeah, they are ranked by Flightmodel in 1v1s meaning the F15A beats the Mig29 with equal skill.
There are fine when all the Mig29s in the same place, because all of them are half-circle plane.
