RWR too you are right. Still, 27ER on a tier of their own just like ARH, I firmly believe they should be at least 0.3 above any plane that only has sparrows.
They have either 6 or 8 SARH, which is already more - and better missile by far - than what F2A or F15A can carry in the Fox 1 department. The 27ER is on a whole different level, so it doesn’t matter if they all have 4 IRCCM Fox 2, just by having 27ER you are already the superior aircraft in a 1v1 or in a 16v16, you name it.
If you can keep the lock and/or fire sooner, the 27ER will connect much sooner than either of the missiles you mentioned. In fact, if you only have Fox 1 and someone fired a 27ER at you, you barely have any time to defend and can’t retaliate, while if someone fires a Sparrow at you, you have days to defend, retaliate and roll the Sparrow while maintaing your own lock lol.
I have been playing the F2 ADTW all day and its come to the point that id rather kill myself than keep this up in 38 Matches only 2 Kills came from the AIM 7M. This is just depressing.
Mig 29G is at 13.0 too 😂 ancient RWR, worse Flightmodel, worse radar, worse fox 2s, less fox1s. And better Fox 1s I guess (2)
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- Try using 60% thrust for a minute so that your team starts fighting the enemy first, and then try to gank unaware people with your AAM3, they are really good so you can rely on those. This is a valid tactic for when you are stock, in a full uptier or want to learn the plane.
- Also, bind a key to turn off your radar for when you need to fire an AAM3 but your TWS is picking something else.
- Only fire Sparrows top-down or people high up, but be ready to fire multiple as they lose track.
Your only choice if you are not really familiar with the enemies you will be facing is to support your team from behind to minimize the chances of having a Fox 3 be fired at you.
Yeah that one is about on par with the F15A, it cannot share the same BR as the flankers ever.
It is not on par with the F15A 💀 not with that Rwr/radar
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I know all that ive been playing WT since 2017. But still most of the time even when i stay in the back i cant get close enough to use the AAM 3 and the Sparrow just doesnt cut it in any way.
I would fuck F15As all day in my MiG 29G. The RWR difference is real but the radar gap wit hthe F15A is useless if half the Sparrows are ignoring their locked target or just fly somewhere else. Maybe in SB the radar difference is more noticeable, but certainly not in RB. This is why the AESA radar of the F2A ADTW is amazing in SB, but still can’t be taken advantage of in RB.
F-2A is the only aircraft mentioned that’s best in the 1v1 environment here, while having more countermeasures and a superior RWR.
An R-27ER is strong, but it’s not the wunderwaffe you’re claiming it to be.
The Su-27s are on-par with F-2A IMO when used similarly, and objectively speaking they are not superior.
That F-2A radar is also a buff to AIM-7Ms that the F-15A and Su-27 don’t have the luxury of having.
Also if you think Mig-29G can beat an F-15A… that’s funny.
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Well even if only half on the Aim 7s Hit that’s still two kills… And I don’t have any problems with them. They aren’t AMRAAMs or R27ERs but they are fine. And you have the better Flightmodel.
Sure, if we are talking about playing without guns, because in a real 1v1 the flankers have the R73 which is the best dog fighting missile in the game too, and it’s not like you will be able to rate fight a lot in RB without getting 3rd partied.
It really is, it’s a beast, top-down shots almost always ignore multipath, and flankers have so many of those that you don’t even need to be conservative, it’s insane.
I don’t think they are on par in RB simply because of the 27ER. Maybe if they only had the 27ER and no IRCCM missiles they could be equal, but having an abundance of both deserves a 0.3br difference in my opinion that is.
I mean, it definitely can, not only does it have an advantage in BVR due to the 27ER, but the R73 is much better in anything that is not long range shots when compared to 9M.
Since you have relatively no control over whether the Sparrow will fuck itself or not, you can’t even guarantee that the enemy will need to defend itself for the Sparrow to miss, so you’re more likely to get 2 kills out of your 9M than the 7M.
If you haven’t used sparrows at that BR is hard to explain because their behavior is something that not even the R27R does, I’ve only seen it in Sparrows and the awful 530D from the Mirage, but you can do the most pefect shot against a sitting duck 10km above you that is neither chaffing or notching, and the Sparrow can simply just go somewhere else. The problem is not that they are easy to evade (we all know they are the easiest to evade), it’s that they have tracking issues that you would expect from like 10.3 Fox 1.
F2 good at 13.0, but premium flankers should go up. 8x R77+HMS at 13.3…
I’ve played the F15A (Baz) as well as flankers and the Mig29G. And I don’t really understand why everyone has a problem with sparrows. The CW can be a bit weird but for me that’s like 1/10 times.
Maybe they got worse since you last used them, try playing 5 matches with them and I guarantee you’ll get it.
R-73 is good, it however is not “the best” as it’s susceptible to pre-flaring and requires you to be in the front aspect of an Su-27, which is extremely difficult to do in an F-2A, and still difficult in an F-15A to get in front of an Su-27 when out of flares.
Sorry, but your precious Su-27 is not superior to the F-2A.
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Yes, all time of day.
Since the AIM-7 can be out-rolled, notching isn’t necessary. Even if both ER missiles miss, they will still force the fight into a situation where the MiG-29G gains a positional advantage during the approach.
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You don’t need to be in the front aspect, these missiles can even hit targets that are behind you after the turn, and depending on the angle, they will often ignore flares. All Fox 2 are weak to pre-flaring, that is not exclusive to R73. Difficult maybe, but not impossible and it’s certainly made easy with an HMD, which both the F2A or F15A lack, by the time your rate fighting advantage starts to shine, you get 3rd partied.
In my opinion it is, and I’d much rather be in a SU27 or SU33 in Fox 3 hell than in either the F15A or F2A ADTW, it’s a hell of a missile carrier and the 27ER is the only missile that will have you win trades with Fox 3.
No it doesn’t, the MiG 29 will win a 1 circle fight against an F15A, made even easier thanks to HMD + R73, and usually that is much more valuable to win 1 circle fights than having to do multiple circles to win the engagement since the more time you take, the more likely you are to get 3rd partied.