I didn’t mention that because I prefer to abuse DL with R-27ER for a similar effect since I had my share of ETs explode mid-air, also cloud coverage makes them mostly useless.
This is true and yeah, I have a harder time defeating R-27ERs than I do AMRAAM or even MICAs these days. Even in the Typhoon
Since they have so good range I often just send one into an area I know there are enemies in and then lock when the missile is very close.
At less than 20km I just send one without maintaining lock and do quick relocks if enemy maneuvers and then in the last 2 seconds I lock for the kill. Easy to do with HMD
Works well because often your RWR is flooded with information and warnings that might be from missiles tracking other people. So sometimes people don’t even react to yours
Yeah, that is an incredibly powerful tactic. And IOG doesnt care about chaff either.
Good point, I forgot to mention that if the enemy is about to notch at short range just unlock the target and the missile might hit it anyway.
On the other hand, it’s very easy to notch fox3s at close range provided you got the time to get into position.
Nowdays I don’t bother chaffing missiles that are coming at me but still far away. I just look at my RWR and when the missile is VERY close I notch and chaff a bit, this way I don’t need to waste as much chaff, nor time defending. This doesn’t work against 27ERs because you can’t estimate their distance from you unless you saw the initial trail.
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No that is the RWR lol not radar… SPO15 literally works only horizontally, meaning quite bad situation awareness.
Yeah. I guess decompression is the key here. I don’t play enough full control to say this but the people who do with simulators are really insane. I just hope it isn’t the same BR as much better stuff, same goes for anything that deserves a different BR. It might just be decompression that is needed.
Ohh thought you were talking about radar or sim hud. Get into the habit of rolling a bit every now and then if you feel like you lost situation awareness.
RWRs with bad vertical coverage also kind of give you more info on the location of the signal since you can estimate the source angle by rolling out and back.
Yeah but it does lack anything else like who, what or where when notching (in the process of). Annoys me a bit. Also not in sim but in GRB, can’t see a thing, Roland could easily kill u without notice.
Just be thankful they gave SPO-10/15 ahistorical buffs like the fact they can actually detect things like PD radar locks. Should be a lot worse than it currently is
Yeah, but the Chinese ones still do not have them in cockpit, which is annoying cause I want to be immersed in SIM.
Yeah, that is annoying when cockpits lack critical things like that.
Or at the bare minimum, the UI RWR should have an option to use the cockpit RWR model
Notching is not hard with it. Get into 90 degrees which the SPO15 will tell just fine and turn a bit more than that. That’s your notch.
Not being able to identify sources is bad, and for sim even more. But you also get IRST which might put the enemy in the same position or worse since now they don’t know if you are aware of them and might push their luck.
Can’t speak much of GRB or should I say, CAS food simulator? You couldn’t pay me to play it.
I cant spesk for the OCU, but the 16AM is NOT worse than the J11, especially in sim, matter of fact its probably the 3rd best F16 at top tier, only behind the 16C, and the Barak II.
In a dogfight tho, the AM is better than both soo 🤷♂️…
Compared to the J11A, its just better; The avionics, Fm, and overall Situation awareness.
U are stuck at top tier with mid missiles (R-77), Abysmal avionics (RWR and radar) and a fm which its better than before, due to the recent changes but it’s still underperforming.
Also just because the R77 turns better, doesn’t mean it’s better than amraam especially when it has probably half the range or even less, allowing the amraam slinger to climb to orbit, lob his amraams at 30 km going mach jesus, and then going into a notch, becoming invulnerable to incoming missiles, especially if the contrail larper is an Eurofighter or an F15E (in that case u can kinematically dodge the missile, even when fired up close).
That is your guess with 0 experience in Sim.
My guess (also with 0 games on top tier) is that it is not really a viable strategy in Sim and instead it is just a AB/RB thing.
The AM is essentially just an OCU with extra countermeasures. Still has no radar HMD, only 6 missiles, or 4 if you want to bring 2 extra CM pods. And it is still a block 15 like the OCU.
No. You must be thinking block10 vs block50 FM. The block15 is a side grade for pure dogfighting and a downgrade for bvr performance because of its worse acceleration and speed. The only block10s are in 12.7, and only 1 of them has radar missiles which is the Fake-16AJ.
F-16 has a lower skill floor sure. But in my opinion having many more missiles, HMD, and more effective number of countermeasures since they are single drop and large caliber (even better than the F-16C that has effectively 60 presses) is the better deal.
How is the flanker underperforming btw?
I didn’t say the R77 is better than the aim120, but it isn’t worse either. Depends on the situation. Personally ,I’d rather have the R77 while carrying more missiles.
The modern Fox3 is one of the most balanced additions that gaijin did which is a feat considering its history, not perfect but quite decent.
The R77 is overall the worst package when compared to any non aim120 missile. For example, the Derby or PL12 have a bit better range and speed while not losing much pull performance in HOBS compared to it, but on the other hand, 13.7 R77 platforms carry more missiles so it balances things out. When compared to the aim120, one excels where the other sucks and vice versa.
The best missile overall is the mica since it is the fastest and more maneuverable within the high PK
ranges.
An amram launched at that distance is a low PK launch, against opponents with range advantage you should be close to notch and bait them into pushing you while you send R77 in HOBS. But at 30km from an amraam you can do whatever because you got plenty of time to defend.
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It is not my guess. DL mechanics are the same. Between RB and sim everything is about the same iirc, even the FMs. The main differences is that in RB you have instructor (which you can disable), 3rd person view and the annoying spotting system.
Furthermore, there’s no assist that you get in AirRB that directly helps you abuse R-27ER DL compared to sim. You still have to manually find the same target on the radar TWS mode.
Only at shorter ranges where you would use HMD since you can see below your nose if needed, but works the same in sim
Finilly someone got my idead that for using those 10 missiles you need to find an enemy first. God bless you.
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except there’s no IFF with hard-lock either from STT/HMD/ACM, which is still not fixed.
unless you already confirmed IFF from other ways, there’s a high chance to go to court martial (hangar) in sim, while in RB you can spam the f out of it cuz you got the magical marker
Thay should make more tyers because in sim or RB goes F16A 50years old plane agains FA2000 wich is almost 20years, how? F15E, yes its 2007 but still in dogfight as F15, the only plus it had was stromg engines, but thay took it from it. There are many wishes for F22 or F18, wich both are older than FA2000 or Rafele.
But the worst is that there in not enought ranks to spred those aurcraft in, just look at it, wwr2 is in 4 tyers cold war in 2 and now toptyer is one.
When the Su-27 and the early F-15 series had the same BR, I have fought both the Su-27 against the F-15 and vice versa, and I remember that there was no major imbalance and it felt good.
However, this was a time when multipath was set to 100m and BVR was not yet properly established, so to be honest I’m not very confident that the same evaluation would apply at this point in time.
So I would like to see the Su-27 put into the same 13.0 as the F-15 again and try out what the difference in combat power is between the two in the current multipath environment.
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