It really doesn’t, better for tracking because the radar automatically adjusts itself, but it also scans very slowly with lots of inconsistencies, and sometimes you lock and it forces into IRST without being able to change it
I play both Eurofighter and J-11. The effeorts you put to find a target with Su-27 radar is nothing compared to Eurofighter. Not even close.
You just need to get used to the RWR, still serviceable. Get into 90º notch which is still easy to do with that RWR, then go 100º (a bit more) and chaff away.
I know how to dodge missiles. Have you ever heard about situational awareness?
if you would give it all weapons and avionics on level with flanker, aswell as flight perfomance - why not?
Welp, i was talking about original Su-27 and J-11. 11A is just a bit dead, since thats just worser russian flanker
I’m trying to help you since you said you had better effectiveness with the MLU than the flankers which is a bit ridiculous.
Anyway, the fox3 flankers might not be the best 13.7’s, but they surely aren’t the worst either. Lowering them would ruin 12.3-13.3 matchmaking even more.
Without decompressing top tier you can’t make a good argument to change these BR’s.
SM with new engines and FM must be fine
J-11A is way worser than russian one
Yes I know. But you can’t lower it either with the current BR compression without messing things further.
Sure, the J11A is currently dead on water which is 1 problem. Lowering it will solve 1 problem while creating a bunch more.
Every topic asking for BR adjustments for specific planes is completely useless because we can only start solving these by decompressing top tiers in the first place.
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I’m curious to know how well this works in Sim environment. Or is this more like air RB gimmick?
You have 0 experience flying anything at that matchmaking or even in the whole mode. And yet here you are arguing for balance and trying to give advice.
There is no such thing as “12.3 - 13.3 matchmaking”. The planes like regular Su-27 sitting on 13.3 will fight 14.0 every day 100% of the time. When flying a 13.0 plane (like F-16A MLU) you can choose to join only 12.0 - 13.0 or 12.3 - 13.0 matches. And you can also play it against 14.0 if you wish.
Its all the same, be it arcade or sim.
Its the exact same issue with sim, to much BR compression, even if I don’t play sim it I can see that from a mile away.
Lowering flankers BR will ruin lower brackets, not that I care much about sim but it’s just not possible to balance it without proper decompression.
I’m just trying to get people to see the problem where it really is. Let’s demand gaijin for BR decompression instead of trying to move problems up and down while creating new problems. What about that?
In Sim its not even that.
You have preset brackets which enable vehicles to sometimes be top of the brakcet and exceptionally good or bottom of the bracket and exceptionally weak.
Currently there is no bracket dedicated for either 12.3s or 13.3s. Should be fixable for both since the introduction of 14.0 and hopefully will be here in the next RB change within a few weeks.
Su-27 does not need a BR drop and to a certain degree, there is no need for a decompress within Sim, as compression causes issues in uptiers and there arent really uptiers in Sim.
Just need to add a 12.3-13.3 bracket and then not just the Su-27, but aircraft like the Tornado F3 Late, Mig-29SMT, J-11, Su-33, Su-34 and JF-17 can all start to have a much easier time.
Much the same thing occurs at 12.3, with aircraft like the M2K R1, F4EJ KAI, Gr7, Gr4, F-14A, M2KS4/S5, etc suffer because they can only ever fight Mig-29s or F-16As at 12.7
Having the brackets changing every now and then is not a compression fix IMHO. Its only a way to make people not touch certain vehicles and abuse others
Such as?
I cannot think of a single 13.7 that is worse than the J11A, well maybe because… there aren’t?
I’m also waiting for a specific plane. But he can’t name any.
I already did. Go back
F16A OCU/AM notably has down sides but still, compared to J11A, better radar RWR and ARH. They are equal to say even in ARB, never mind a more situation aware sim. J11A’s only upside is more missiles, CMs(for OCU only) and MAWs. They are all victims of compression but J11A as a 1980s avionics jet who can not perform BVR is probably the worst considering the single data link.
It doesn’t have HMD which makes it automatically have worse avionics overall.
The flankers have single drop 96 large calibre CMs, which is even better than the 120 double drop flares on the normal F-16C for example.
The aim120 isn’t the better missile just because it has more range, the R-77 has much better HOBS performance and higher explosive payload to kill multipathers. On top of that the F-16 has very limited armament compared to the flankers.
The F-16 might have a lower skill floor but that doesn’t mean it is better than the flankers.
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But AFAIK not knowing where lock is as soon as u are 1 degree off horizontal is painful. Also to utilise the R77 advantages u must lock first, which might proof to be more difficult than many think especially in very tight situations.
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Don’t be dramatic.
The J11 radar can lock quite fast and reliably, the only downside is that sometimes it locks a different target than intended in a big cluster of targets and that it doesn’t soft lock very well with TWS but that’s not really an issue for R77.
In very “tight” situations is where the J11 shines since it has much better radar missiles for hobs + HMD + r73. And since you guys play sim, you know how strong the flanker is with full controls + r73. Those F-16 can’t really counter that because they don’t have many CMs to begin with, even the ones with 120 is not that much because if you run 50/50 flare chaff you only get effectively 30 flare presses. Not to mention the poor state of the OCU.
Also, whilst I wont be dragged into this fully. cant overlook the effectiveness of R-27ETs either. 0 RWR warning from having one of those fired at you, especially when launched using IRST.
If played correctly, you could pick up loads of kills with absolute ease against anything without MAWS, regardless of whether or not it has ARH.
The sheer ability to run both R-77 and R-27ETs and R-73s with HMD is a powerful loadout and maybe one of the strongest A2A loadouts in game currently.