first three images is the testing of duplet that stopped 90% of the APFSDS of 3bm42 and only 60mm of armour was penetrated
last image of protection test is from french ofl 120 f1 APFSDS round which only make 15-20mm of armour pen after ERA-
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You can bug report it here (just search a bit first so that you don’t report something that is already reported and known about): (Gaijin.net // Issues)
A guide on how to report bugs can be found here: ([Navigation] Technical Knowledge Base | War Thunder Wiki)
Note that things of this kind need actual numbers and values to be reported, images like these and speculation on how the setup was during testing won’t be enough. Additionally from these images alone i don’t think it’s possible to prove that this is what was then actually installed on the tank. But i don’t know a lot about this so i’m just going by what is available through the images alone.
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ok thanks man its pretty hard to get actually get numbers esp from armour testing but in general duplet era should perform better the relict on t90m mainly because duplet was reversed engineered from relict and relict was only stated to stop 40% of APFSDS
Are you sure? Then explain this, please:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/5hhiV0K6KvS1
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No, Duplet and Relikt have completely different operating principles.
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Yes, I said: “things of this kind” . Video and images can be used as evidence for other things and have been used for things like armor thickness for example (there was an image i’ve seen where someone used a measuring tape on a tank in a museum that i think was used for reporting the thickness of that part) but i don’t think images can convey effectiveness of that armor without other facts also backing things up with numbers and testing setup.
You’d better read this whole report. It’s so ridiculous it’s actually funny.
I did read it. What part of it do you think is ridiculous?
Also this is going of topic, if you want to continue the discussion we can do so in PM.
Not entirely both explode steel plates into incoming projectiles but funny enough relict actually has worse performance then duplet the manufacturer stated themselves relict can only stop 40% of APFSDS while duplet stops 90% of APFSDS
I also bug reported the type 10s transmission and acceleration inaccuracy with the actual specs and name of transmission but it has been ignored so far
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The response from the technical moderator that I attached as a screenshot.
Relikt is an ERA that uses a propelled plate launched toward the incoming projectile. Duplet, on the other hand, is a set of explosive charges that destroy the projectile with cumulative jets. In fact, the only thing they have in common is that something explodes inside.
Moreover, if I remember correctly, these types of ERA came from parallel programs that began back in the USSR, so there can be no talk of any reverse engineering.
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That it just completely wrong
Duplet ERA is also just made up of nizh ERA something it also doesn’t show up in war thunder
And what does Relikt have to do with this?
Because it game duplet ERA should be performing better then relikt ERA after all the manufacturer of relikt has stated it can only stop 40% of a APFSDS while in game bm oplot front plate cannot even stop 3bm46 in some areas while in irl testing it the duplet ERA stopped 90% of ofl 120 f1 APFSDS witj only 20mm of armour penetration
Please try to understand how the ERA systems in question actually work in real life.
I did some calculations on existing threads according to the BM42 on turret tests, the first part of the message is a response to what a community manager is saying about the test.
In the spoiler you can see the calculations.
According to the BM42 tests on the turret, Duplet should provide 400mm+ of kinetic protection.
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Also to note 3bm42 would also perform better against ERA because its two piece core ammunition design
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