Flying my 109F4, I find Yak-3s to be a challenging and scary fight but very much an even chance that comes down to which of us is better than the plane carrying things.
I don’t really go above 5.0 in SB nor do I see soviet planes above that BR, so cannot comment. But the 109F4/109G2/109G6/109G14 versus Yak-1B, Yak-9 (variants up to U) and Yak-3, La-5 (variants), La-7, and I-185 feels like a fair BR to BR match-up. 109F4 is my favourite/most-played plane by now I think (~36 hours), and a total of ~70 hours across all 109s.
The difference RB controls and SB controls cannot be understated. You should focus your complaints explicitly on Instructor/Mouse-aim rather than on conspiracies. In RB, the key feature of 109s (automatic leading edge slats) don’t even activate outside of turns with very high slip while they are pivotal for its SB performance.
I’m not even sure it’s an intentional 109 nerf, it might just be the consequence of “small, light plane with an insanely powerful engine that is pretty slippery on yaw and eager to enter an accelerated stall if mishandled” so instructor is set up in a heavily safe territory.
The only legitimate complaint I have is mineshells not fuzing reliably on yak wings and fuselages.
This applies to almost all HE shells we have in game BTW.
It was hilarious when for almost a decade it applied to M-geschoss only out of all 20mm HE shells, ans we couldn’t test it as there was no in-game tool for it. But even when it was - it took Gaijin years to fix
I don’t have any real hopes for Gaijin and this game at this point.
Did you read what I wrote? You showed a clip of you vs a mk24 and I pointed the mistake the mk24 and why you got him?
If I 1v1 a zero and he reverse his turn into my guns, would this make a compelling argument for X plane being able to outturn a zero?
No, because the zero played badly.
It’s the same thing with the mk24, it’s superior in every way to the 152-C3. The guy you meet panicked and played ultra badly
2-5.
Notable matches:
I pitched up to hit an AI A-26B, hit his belly then pitched down immediately. Both planes looking away, the AI A-26B manages to hit my engine and give me a fire.
Ground Target AAA manages to shear my wing off from the root.
Had to face against 6.0+ and like thirty P-51H’s.
I mean like it does fine if u just climb at the start, and do one or two dives on lower alt enemies. Otherwise u have to be a master of 108s to be able to do well, I’ve had maybe 100-200 games in 262s so I am doing better now than before but still it struggles a bit when u don’t get someone first time.
I’m just popping in on this thread, but a question came to mind:
Is the Ta152C-3 generally considered weak among you all?
Lately I haven’t been flying much since the B-17 stopped matching,
but I’m curious about the general evaluation of the aircraft I’ve flown.
Is the Ta152C-3 generally considered weak among you all?
For me, when i see a Ta152, i panic a little because it could be the H version and i’ll have to sweat. But when i see that it’s the C version i breath relaxed because i know i can just turn and win, or follow him in a dive for a few seconds then i go back up knowing he’ll never get that altitude back.
I can do literally any maneuver and win.
When the 151 worked and 1-shotted more often that sparking, 4 mg151 and 1 mk103 was an absurdly powerfull combo that made the plane a absolute headon monster. you could rush in with the airspawn and smack spit and p51h in headons when they were still climbing.
+the roll rate and lack of compression makes it almost impossible to avoid in headon. if you are not going ~500kph+ you are not dodging.
Nowadays MG151/20 has horrendous ballistics and MK103 may let you fly in between shells.
Also Ta itself compresses substantialy compared with what it was before.
Well that to me is at most a sidegrade to the flight performance offered by D-12/13, and simply airspawn + 2 extra 20mm, along another 30mm sidegrade to me feels way to slim for a 1.3 BR change. Especially if the climb rate largely deletes ur advantage of airspawn. I am going to try it out in the future in normal server but I will just say my expectations looking at the stats is low.
The only sidegrade of the 152C might be the supercharger, it works better above 6k. But if you want high alt, take the D12/D13 it has better performance at said altitude and almost the same below:
Otherwise it’s heavier slower, climb worse, turn worse, roll worse, even the guns are worse since the 13mm IAI of the D9 are better than your 4 mg151. It compresses more, the flaps are worse.
I guess it has slightly more armor so there is that…
Don’t even bother, it’s probably the worst fighter you can try right now in the german tech tree.
Oh, and the last thing: because it’s 6.3, 50%+ of your match will be against F84, F80, Su-9, Su-11, and in the mix of course F8F, P51-H, griffon spit, ect
The Ta-152H is .3 lower, meaning that you face jets only in full uptier.
And it’s has amazing ernergy retention, but the real trick of the 152-H is the flaps.
Here the thing: The 152-H flaps INCREASE rate. This means that not only you turn tighter but you keep more energy doing so.
So basically, you can more or less out-dogfight anything as long as you use flaps semi-correctly. Rip speed is lower than your typical 190 but it’s still around 800kph and you have ample time to react and not that much compression.
I’d advise you to watch some videos on youtube for handling the annoying opponent, like Spitfire LF mk9 and P51-H. Maybe Yak3-U tho you can dive to make them compress and reverse them. They usually fall for this easily.
I’m linking catwerfer experimentally obtained EM diagrams but to give you an idea:
nearly all the fighter can be found so don’t hesitate to check it out.
If you want more info for EM-Diagrams and/or how those chart were obtained, check his youtube playlist
