I’ll make it 3 again, it was 3. I might have lost KD while texting with a girl while playing today
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İf you are not turning back once yourn Aim-120 reaches 20KM that’s a skill issue, and that will make your ER useless, you have to keep hard lock for ER
MULTIPATHING was strong before patch tho, you are forgetting one very important thing.
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You’re forgetting not every player out there is the most skilled pilot that makes the best decisions every single situation, people are gonna make mistakes and you just have to use that to your benefit.
Not saying It’s the best strategy, but for now It’s what we have.
Also, before patch you still got 2-4 people climbing here and there, and if any of those was a Su-27 it, obviously, had the upper hand, speaking from experience because that’s how I played with it
when youu need to get benefit by other’s mistake, I think it’s called unbalanced. In SARH time, the range of fight was limited, so it’s not that a problem. even trash like R-27R, I can make it effective. but now, it feel like any trying is useless, you can only rely on enemy’s mistake
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Gaijin likes to shift the “Meta Nation” back and forth, I’ll let you speculate as to why
well, this time is more different I think, gaijin failed to consider many things this time but simply add arh missile for everyone and think they are same. Before, good radar and rwr are good but not that necessary, especially in ussr plane, you can throw R-27ER in enemy’s face. like i said
worse missile like AIM-7F and R-27 can also be used in proper way.
but now, poor radar and rwr becomes the biggest weakpoint, and I think gaijin didn’t consider this. It crashed USSR planes. And SA JAS-39, firing stupid arh python
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Using people’s mistakes to beat them is not “unbalance”, is actual skill you build while playing the game.
Like seeing a FW190 trying to outturn a Zero.
You just gotta stick to your guns during this time as there’s really no alternative, and wait until they add/adjust Fox 3s
I think there are some misunderstanding
I mean, now, it’s hard to get other’s mistake, the range of fight has extended, the enemy would easily get you while you can’t get close or catch their mistake, and in long range, they have chance to avoid your attack while it’s hard for you flying things like su-27sm
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Only war thunder players would rationalize this as an acceptable balance decision lmao
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This is intentional, the burn time of both missiles are extraordinarily short, so they have to loft aggressively if they have to traverse medium to large distances.
The easiest suggestion to compensate this effect is to angle the plane adequately in medium to short distances to avoid the missile notching itself due to said loft (which is a common complain about the Derby)
I say once again my point is being misunderstood. There’s no other way to deal with SPAMRAAM right now so Im stating the possible options one may have, Im not saying It’s fair, Im not saying It’s balanced, It’s just one of the possible ways to, at least, “half-counter” it instead of hoping that bad Fox-3 missiles work and depend on blind luck.
I still stand on the mistakes argument, that’s objectively true on most games and WT is one of them, to a lesser extent at top tier.
he is pro player where know how to kill 6 targets with 6 R-77 we are have skill issue and Gaijin made a perfect balance in game.
Had R-Darter miss plane when launched at 3km far target going cold… If i used 9M it would hit…
Well, its mainly issue of air RB though…
The spotting created this issue. Remove spotting of enemy planes (leave your own teammates up to like 7-10km) and you can jump amraam carriers with even R27R or something else.
But now? They see you the moment you shoot 99.9% times and they just helmet lock you and launch fox3. Remove spotting to increase value of surprising someone and you have it more balanced. Its like that in SIMS, even though US teams often win, mainly because they have constant stream of players unlike oppostion but like top 5 of leaderboard? They have similar KDs with only few exeptions.
Fox 3s are not suitable for Air RB gameplay, no matter the BR or balance, they are simply too easy to use with spotting and helmet sights.
I just switched to sims.
You completely missed my point. They don’t think they are the same, they know some out preform others, IE the NATO ones out preform the Russian ones (taking the OP at his word here as I haven’t unlocked them yet, but they are killing me more)… after all the people that try to ride the Meta have finished spending money to grind the R27ER because it out preformed the AIM-7s… which was added after the same people finished grinding NATO planes for the AIM-9-L that vastly out preformed the R-60m, See the pattern yet?
I know, but this time different. Old time, each side has their own advantage, and missile advantage can be made up, it can be called balanced in gaijin’s way. for example, f-16a and mig-29a, f16 has batter flight model, better radar and better ir missile, mig29 has r-27er and hmd.
But this time diffeerent. Gaijin think like this “old planes are balanced, so all add arh would still be balanced”. But it turned out the radar, rwr and flightmodel disadvantage is sharply magnified, causing totally unbalance.
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Yes, I get what you are saying and agree, but I’m talking about the “meta abusers” that are typically low skill players that flock to the low skill missile buses like the F14 and SU27 and get baited to what ever nation is considered OP ant any given moment. But you are correct that the newer jets at least have the ability to compete, even if its far more skill intensive to fly 1 vs the other, compared to the old system where one nation gets an OP jet and everyone else suffers. I remember grinding the Sh*t outta japan to abuse the T2 before the next big patch made it obsolete!
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yes, and I think mig-23ml/a/d are more typical. it’s easy to use, get 2 kills, but lacks the ability of getting more due to r-60m. I think it’s balanced, but it’s unbalanced for low skill players.
and sadly, it’s nerfed to the ground now
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