Exactly. The R77 is still effective when used appropriately. The R-27 is excessively effective and within range the efficacy is considerably more effective than the 120. I can dodge 120s all day.
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And here we have it, the “revenge” aspect in which just because one country had to suffer another should and we should ignore balance.
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And here we have it, the “now I’m a victim of imbalance” aspect in which one country had the advantage and now they don’t have their advantage anymore. People tend to scream balance when they don’t have the advantage anymore.
Learn to use the R77 to it’s strengths instead of complaining that the 120s are better. They were designed with different things in mind and in Warthunder the 120 is better because it has less drag and more range. These missiles aren’t meant for Warthunder’s low altitude fights, they are really only for high altitude.
I talked about balance when the MiG-23 came, when the F-14A came, when the R-27ER came, and now when the AIM-120A came. Don’t generalize me, as I am just as tired of this victim mentality pissing contest as anyone.
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All I did was do the same thing you did to @Calerid.
I dunno, your statcard shows you used the F-14s, Mig-23ML, and aircraft with R-27ERs the most. Sounds like you leveraged every single imbalance as it came.
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of course I am going to exploit imbalances within the game. Does that make me a good advocate for balance? Probably not. But just because I played those aircraft does not mean that I support the huge imbalances that they caused.
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No, it makes you a hypocrite and ruins your credibility for proper balance. “I want balance in the game but I am also fine with using the most broken problem children of balancing” <—That is you.
That is exactly what you did. Playing the vehicles with the imbalance is supporting the imbalance. You actively contributed to the imbalance by being another player using the imbalanced vehicles. The fact that it is easy to tell you abused each imbalance just proves that you aren’t genuine with your argument.
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Not a soul will attest to playing a vehicle that is being clobbered. There is absolutely no point. I played these vehicles because they were the new toy, not because they were OP.
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I played top tier American jets the entire time they were against the 27ERs. Got blasted by launches that were after my missile was in the air for a few seconds. Now I am grinding toward top tier Russia to use the R-77 carriers. You don’t understand the other side of the argument because don’t spade vehicles and thus don’t have to suffer through challenges of imbalance. You only spade the shiny new overpowered toys and say “Things are really imbalanced!”. I’ve spaded more vehicles in the US tree than you have in the entire game by 2 times. You seem to have never played with an imbalance ever. A hypocrite, that’s what you are, a hypocryte.
You played those vehicles because they were the OP new toy, probably in the same way that you play the AV-8B+ now. Not quite sure what you used to grind the AV-8B+ and F-15C, but you really seem to like the lower BR Aim120 carrier more. Wonder why?
I have spaded pretty much every top tier item, such as the F-14B, F-14A, F-15A, F-4E, MiG-29, MiG-29SMT, F-16A ADF, etc… Idk what you are talking about
Also, I dislike playing the F-15C MSIP II because its just USA vs USA at that BR.
And FYI I used the F-5C
Thats my point, you’ve spaded the best vehicles at the times they were overpowered. You didn’t even play any planes before top tier in the US. You used one of the most undertiered broken premiums (F-5C - amazing airframe/dogfighter at 10.3 and the engines run super cool allowing you to flare anything off with no effort) for the US and then you grinded the Russian tree with the Mig-23ML (which was also overperforming).
You don’t know what imbalance is because you’ve never played it. You’ve done nothing but play broken OP aircraft the whole time, and you still have the nerve to try cry about balance now. Hypocryte.
I’ve spaded 193 of my 271 US vehicles. I have suffered like hell to get some of the vehicles done, something you wouldn’t know about.
I would imagine you don’t like playing USA because those planes are meta right now. You don’t seem to want to play against anything as strong or stronger than your vehicle ever.
So we’re back to self victimization it seems? Also, what other TT US premium would you have liked me to use? There wasn’t one… That was the only one that was available… Also, sitting here complaining about the MiG-23ML and then ALSO complaining about the F-14A is just a error in itself… What would you liked me to have done? Not used anything? Perhaps I should have used some shit vehicle so I could have the high horse to keep saying “oOoOoh hOw i haVe sUfFered.” I used the SU-7BMK a horrid jet for most of my grinding of the USSR tech tree. I used the F-105D to grind out a large amount of the tech tree. Neither of those jets were these meta monsters. Stop acting like you are oH sO mUcH better than me just because you picked the harder paths.
I’m not acting like I’m better, I’m acting like you’re a hypocrite and your opinion on balancing is disengenious and effectively useless, which it is.
Just because I am not a masochistic whiner who prides himself in having no fun playing shit vehicles does not mean that I do not have a proper opinion in balance. I played a whole lot on the receiving end of bias so you’re not special chastising yourself to trees without unbalanced items.
You’re correct. What makes you not have a valuable opinion to balance is how you have adopted a “do as a say and not as I do” attitude. You say that things are imbalanced and that something should be done, while also almost strictly using the vehicles that people (you included) are complaining are imbalanced and overpowered.
Your stats have determined that is a lie. Almost strictly planes that had overpowered features which line up perfectly to your stats. Not a whole lot on the recieving end.
Also in your other thread you only want the R-77-1 to bring balance, but not upgrades to the other underperforming ARHs. Possibly because you like playing Russia and US so that would give you the top 3 radar guided missiles.
No, the reason I have not mentioned them is because I do not have knowledge of the Derby and R-Darter
So the Yak-141, F-4E, F-15A, F-16A ADF, SU-7BMK just don’t exist
Riiiight, doesn’t look that way from outside your own mind. Just looks like you want better weapons for your own planes while leaving everyone else out to dry.
Yak-141 - R-27ER carrier - Not bad - You put in quite a few games with this.
F-4E - pretty amazing overall aircraft at 11.0 - Not bad - Your 11th most played aircraft
F-15A - the 12.3 missile bus that should have been 12.7 instead of 12.3, also was best plane for BVR for US with 4 Aim7Ms and an all aspect PD radar along with Aim9Ms - Not bad - Your 12th most played aircraft.
F-16ADF only F-16 variant to carry Aim7Ms at time of release, amazing dogfighter with Aim9Ls and then given BVR capability - Not bad - Your 13th most played aircraft.
SU-7BMK - 2nd fastest 9.3 that should outrun every other strike aircraft around it’s BR except for a few in uptiers - Not bad - You grinded almost 800k rp with this.
Your top 10 are full of OP planes from the past and present. F-5C, A-10A Early, F-14A, Mig-23ML, F-14B, Yak-141, Su-7BMK, Mig-29SMT, Mig-29, and Su-27.
You can stop acting like you’ve played aircraft that are bad anytime you’d like. You have mostly played pretty great aircraft or an aircraft with the most broken weaponry the entire time.
This is not true, the information above is proof of it. The vast majority of your games are in the aircraft listed above.
This is one of the few things you said that is correct. You are not a good advocate for balance. You can’t advocate against something that you exploit, because that is called being hypocrisy. It also deminishes your credability in a discussion. Your opinion on balance is not to be trusted because you will exploit (your words) any imbalances that exist, and you are currently pushing for Russia (and Russia only) to get an upgrade to their ARH missiles because they aren’t the best in game.
As fun as this has been, I will be taking my leave from this thread. Enjoy being a hypocrite and exploiting (your words) only the most powerful aircraft while also crying “but it’s not balanced”.
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