Another Brake of the game R-77 vs AIM-120 most failer update. Blalance missing

No they haven’t.

Is that why they had to steal a sidewinder missile in order to copy the technology?

A 40 year old missile system shoots down Russia’s over hyped hyper-sonic missile.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-patriot-kinzhal-6b59af8e60853b4d6d16dd8d607768be

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That happens m8? Remember when a 30 yo missile system shot down the USs new and shiny stealth aircraft?

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Yup, because one their electronic jaming escorts were grounded and second they had over confidence in the tech and flew the same path over and over again. Then having some luck turning turned on the radar right as the bomb doors opened gave enough of a lock to down the plane. Mistakes were made, luck on the other side equals downed airplane.

Oh and the plane wasnt new and shiny it was toward the end of the active rolls as the new stealth was coming online. Thats why the crash site wasnt a huge crater and the wreckage was allowed to be given to china and russia as it was 40 year old tech at that point. Shit happens and corrections are made life goes on.

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I’m not trying to be a smartass, I’m just saying nothing is invincible and just because it gets shot down doesn’t mean it’s bad

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Yes you are but thats ok. They made claims that the hyper-sonic missile was unstoppable by US systems, then we shot it down. We said we had stealth and you wont see it coming, and then it got shot down. Everyone eats crow at some point.

I believe the R-77 never came to replace the R-27ER.
the only one that replaces it is the r-77 ramjet version (RVV-AE-PD)

Best update ever.

The biggest imbalance was the R-27 vs the AIM-7.

Now you have the R-27 and we have the 120. 🤷

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R-77 still works as addition

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Exactly. The R77 is still effective when used appropriately. The R-27 is excessively effective and within range the efficacy is considerably more effective than the 120. I can dodge 120s all day.

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And here we have it, the “revenge” aspect in which just because one country had to suffer another should and we should ignore balance.

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And here we have it, the “now I’m a victim of imbalance” aspect in which one country had the advantage and now they don’t have their advantage anymore. People tend to scream balance when they don’t have the advantage anymore.

Learn to use the R77 to it’s strengths instead of complaining that the 120s are better. They were designed with different things in mind and in Warthunder the 120 is better because it has less drag and more range. These missiles aren’t meant for Warthunder’s low altitude fights, they are really only for high altitude.

I talked about balance when the MiG-23 came, when the F-14A came, when the R-27ER came, and now when the AIM-120A came. Don’t generalize me, as I am just as tired of this victim mentality pissing contest as anyone.

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All I did was do the same thing you did to @Calerid.

I dunno, your statcard shows you used the F-14s, Mig-23ML, and aircraft with R-27ERs the most. Sounds like you leveraged every single imbalance as it came.

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of course I am going to exploit imbalances within the game. Does that make me a good advocate for balance? Probably not. But just because I played those aircraft does not mean that I support the huge imbalances that they caused.

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No, it makes you a hypocrite and ruins your credibility for proper balance. “I want balance in the game but I am also fine with using the most broken problem children of balancing” <—That is you.

That is exactly what you did. Playing the vehicles with the imbalance is supporting the imbalance. You actively contributed to the imbalance by being another player using the imbalanced vehicles. The fact that it is easy to tell you abused each imbalance just proves that you aren’t genuine with your argument.

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Not a soul will attest to playing a vehicle that is being clobbered. There is absolutely no point. I played these vehicles because they were the new toy, not because they were OP.

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I played top tier American jets the entire time they were against the 27ERs. Got blasted by launches that were after my missile was in the air for a few seconds. Now I am grinding toward top tier Russia to use the R-77 carriers. You don’t understand the other side of the argument because don’t spade vehicles and thus don’t have to suffer through challenges of imbalance. You only spade the shiny new overpowered toys and say “Things are really imbalanced!”. I’ve spaded more vehicles in the US tree than you have in the entire game by 2 times. You seem to have never played with an imbalance ever. A hypocrite, that’s what you are, a hypocryte.

You played those vehicles because they were the OP new toy, probably in the same way that you play the AV-8B+ now. Not quite sure what you used to grind the AV-8B+ and F-15C, but you really seem to like the lower BR Aim120 carrier more. Wonder why?

I have spaded pretty much every top tier item, such as the F-14B, F-14A, F-15A, F-4E, MiG-29, MiG-29SMT, F-16A ADF, etc… Idk what you are talking about

Also, I dislike playing the F-15C MSIP II because its just USA vs USA at that BR.

And FYI I used the F-5C

Thats my point, you’ve spaded the best vehicles at the times they were overpowered. You didn’t even play any planes before top tier in the US. You used one of the most undertiered broken premiums (F-5C - amazing airframe/dogfighter at 10.3 and the engines run super cool allowing you to flare anything off with no effort) for the US and then you grinded the Russian tree with the Mig-23ML (which was also overperforming).

You don’t know what imbalance is because you’ve never played it. You’ve done nothing but play broken OP aircraft the whole time, and you still have the nerve to try cry about balance now. Hypocryte.

I’ve spaded 193 of my 271 US vehicles. I have suffered like hell to get some of the vehicles done, something you wouldn’t know about.

I would imagine you don’t like playing USA because those planes are meta right now. You don’t seem to want to play against anything as strong or stronger than your vehicle ever.