phantom i could see getting napalm considering its extensive history on US phantoms, which should have no difference preventing use of napalm bombs
Yeah, and thus we get this wierd situation/double standard where sometimes gaijin religiously sticks by what a nation could use (British Phantoms not getting Napalm) but then allowing all nations to use a weapon system that htey didnt use (Only the British Typhoon should have Paveway IVs)
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its always the dumbest things too, napalm is actually really useful, but the other EFT already have Laser + GPS bombs anyways
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My solution for bombers is simple and realistic: there should be a single target so that bombers can fly together in formation to bomb. This would put an end to the race for bombers to reach a base. The target should have a lot of air defenses to prevent attack aircraft from stealing the bases. The targets should be relevant to the game. Currently, bombers are excluded from the game: they don’t drop tickets, and it’s just a race to the base with a quick dive, which is unrealistic.
Relevant targets could be radar stations that allow the detection of all enemy planes, as was done during World War II. We could also have jamming stations that prevent the use of radars, with aircraft like the F/A-18 Growler capable of jamming enemy systems.
Wouldn’t it be exciting to see bombers in formation, flying at high altitudes? And finally, it’s unrealistic that planes have to take off every time; it would be more realistic if they all started at high altitudes, as was done during World War II. For example, the high-altitude bombing missions of the RAF over Germany.
To illustrate this, let’s take the example of the P-51 Mustang and the P-47 Thunderbolt. Aerial combat involving these planes often took place at altitudes between 7,000 and 9,000 meters. For instance, during the bombing mission on March 6, 1944, known as “Big Week,” P-51 Mustangs escorted B-17 Flying Fortress and B-24 Liberator bombers at combat altitudes of around 8,000 meters, engaging enemy fighters such as the Messerschmitt Bf 109 and Focke-Wulf Fw 190.
you would be to get more actual knowledge about the game set-up in Air RB and historical facts.
Asking for realism in wt is futile, you play a game optimized for kids with access to credit cards. There is little to zero connection to reality or realism.
Imho reading some books would close your know-how gaps in aviation history - the stuff you see on yt, movies like “Red Tails” or TV series like “Masters of the Air” are made for entertainment purposes.
A few examples:
The only known high alt missions flown by RAF BC were with a few lend-lease B-17s called “Fortress I” and were stopped after a few attempts with small groups without any remarkable success. It is reported that they used them actually at 30,000 feet.
Multiple mistakes:
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Operation Argument (aka as Big Week) happened February 20-25, 1944
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The results were not sustainable losses:
RAF:
131 bombers[3]
USAAF:
226 heavy bombers[4]
28 fighters[4]
Over 2,000 aircrew killed or captured[4]
Luftwaffe
262 fighters[4]
250 aircrew killed or injured,[4] including nearly 100 pilots KIA -
The raid on March 6, 1944 with target Berlin (aka as “Big B”) was so successful that 60-69 bombers were lost that day. Even the unreliable site wikipedia is aware of that:
Fierce battles raged and resulted in heavy losses for both sides; 69 Boeing B-17 Flying Fortresses were lost on 6 March but the Luftwaffe lost 160 aircraft. The Allies replaced their losses; the Luftwaffe could not.[37]
Do some research how often and with which effects (usually zero) Chain Home was attacked in 1940. The allies were unable to destroy German radar station too.
So imho you show a lot of passion - but as soon as you realize that you pursue a dream without considering that most of it makes no sense or can’t be realized you might change your mind.
Have a good one!
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Your entire reply is just strawmanning and semantics, like the part where you go “actually it wasn’t 8-9 kilometers, it was 8-9 kilometers but in feet!” or the part where you go “oh but there were loses!!”
Cool man, how’s that relevant to what he said?
A complete rework of Air RB would be a great idea.
It really has nothing to offer for players who like strike aircraft or bombers, at least reliably.
even if the bases are not bombed before your reach them, you are almost always a free kill for fighter aircraft.
I recently purchased the SU25K just because its an interesting plane and i like playing it.
But “playing it” is where the problems arrive. I cant have fun in this plane most of the time because i feel useless and rarely get to fight ground targets. I have looked at tactics like head ons and such but i cant make this thing work. I have also never really survived a single AAM in this thing, i dont know where the supposed survivability is, but thats a different topic.
So yes, different options to grind and have fun for people like me would be nice.
I pointed out that the relevant post showed a huge gap between what actually happened (irl) and the assumptions of the fellow player what wt can offer.
I support everyone who shows passion for aerial warfare in WW 2 - but the fellow player is not realizing that the setup of wt gameplay prevents realism in the first place and he is somehow trapped in his vision of WW 2 bombing which is not even close to reality.
It has nothing to do with semantics if somebody is referring to irl events and is not accurate.
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So the RAF BC is known for some bold low level attacks, carpet bombing of residential areas / cities and extremely high losses of airmen - and not for performing useless attacks without any effect but with 40% losses of early B-17s; they had ~20 of them.
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Same with high alt attacks in general - the combat altitudes of 7-8 km had the obvious disadvantage that there was little to no precision possible with the aiming devices available - that’s why carpet bombing was used.
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You see this best demonstrated by the switch from high alt strikes at day to low level runs at night by B-29s bombing Japan - high alt strikes were not accurate enough.
And this is not even considering the fact that wt in its current form is unable and unwilling to provide any realism.
So we have a fellow player following certain myths and a way too optimistic view on what wt is.
Have a good one!
Additional info:
Regarding WW 2 bombing: