Add 9L for F4S and fix MIG23ML's radar then move them to 12.3 and 12.0

If anything has to happen, mig23 should move up, not f1 down

i dont see the reasoning behind that

because the f1 isn’t fine to go lower (magic 2s are too good)

i dont think so, a 10.7 aircraft is as well equpped to fight magic 2s than any 11.0. i would argue that r24rs are even better.

Either both stay the same BR or MiG-23 goes up. There is no world where F1 becomes 11.7

imo i dont think mig23 is particularly op

F-4C need 9J
F-4E need 9P
F-4S need 9L

Ok, then no BRs need to be changed. Glad we figured it out.

Absolutely not. Only one here that approaches reasonable is F-4C getting 9J. The best 12.0 Fighter aircraft does not need buffs.The F-4E does not need buffs nor did it use 9P.

i also dont think the f1c is worse than the mig23ml, magic 2s arent THAT good that having 2 of em warrants and higher br than mig23ml imo

yeah tbh i think 9es are plenty good at 10.0 when you get 4 of em and 4 7ds

I don’t know MiG-23MLs but, F-4S and FGR.2 can go higher BR with AIM-9Ls.

Also F-4S should have “correct” RWRs.

We’re not doing this back and forth all day. Simply put, MiG-23 either stays or goes up and F1 has no options but to stay 12.0. It does not belong at 11.7 with magic 2s.

F-4C is one of the most garbage planes in game. It SHOULD get AIM-9J if not even AIM-7E

no, they can’t. They are already at the top of gen3 territory. 12.3+ is gen4 territory and they would get massacred.

It getting IRCM like helicopters/the Su-39 is also an option from what I’ve heard. Decompression would also be good.

That would be extremely goofy when AFAIK it never saw service with this. Just linearly upgrade its missiles to be highly competitive at the BR so it can be the missile boat without flares it wants to be. 9J/7E

this is a bad argument

its not you just need to play it right, its not great but you get 10.0 missiles at 10.0 with 4 decent radar missiles and 4 mediocre ir missiles. if you play it right it can do a whole lot.

Stop replying if you have nothing to say.