I don’t know MiG-23MLs but, F-4S and FGR.2 can go higher BR with AIM-9Ls.
Also F-4S should have “correct” RWRs.
We’re not doing this back and forth all day. Simply put, MiG-23 either stays or goes up and F1 has no options but to stay 12.0. It does not belong at 11.7 with magic 2s.
F-4C is one of the most garbage planes in game. It SHOULD get AIM-9J if not even AIM-7E
no, they can’t. They are already at the top of gen3 territory. 12.3+ is gen4 territory and they would get massacred.
It getting IRCM like helicopters/the Su-39 is also an option from what I’ve heard. Decompression would also be good.
That would be extremely goofy when AFAIK it never saw service with this. Just linearly upgrade its missiles to be highly competitive at the BR so it can be the missile boat without flares it wants to be. 9J/7E
this is a bad argument
its not you just need to play it right, its not great but you get 10.0 missiles at 10.0 with 4 decent radar missiles and 4 mediocre ir missiles. if you play it right it can do a whole lot.
Stop replying if you have nothing to say.
going by every metric available to us including peer review, it is.
you get 9.3 missiles.
magic 2s are as easy to defend for a 11.0 plane as they are for a 11.7 plane. and it only gets 2, all you need to do to defend magic 2s is preflare, the mirage f1 is literally one of the least threatening aircraft in the bracket, i dont think ive ever saw one and was slightly worried.
yeah that was a typo on my part. 9es arent bad, 9j wouldnt be bad on it i guess but its 10.0. and 7ds are just straight up good for 10.0
No, they aren’t. They are just the literal only option available besides R-3R for SARH and a lot of people would say R-3R is better lmao
I’m sure CM counts are always the same between all BRs, and that planes can maneuver just as effectively at every BR to position for flaring, and that 10.7s without flares facing the magic 2 is fun
r3r is not better
my F-4E manual said otherwise
yeah pretty much, maneuvering is of fairly little importance in that case too. are there even 10.7 flareless planes? and those flareless planes would get smashed by any ir missile,
and in imo its far harder to dodge and r24r than it is a magic 2.
why would it use an export missile? also aim9p is literally just an aim9j with radar slaving, and the f4e is plenty good at its br, ESPECIALLY the kurnass with 9gs
Yes, but the USAF and USANG also used them, and they were often remanufactured from older AIM-9s. In addition to that they’re explicitly mentioned in the manual. Also they have a small edge over the J in game, as they can be radar slaved.
sure in occasions but i dont see why add it to the f4e when it wouldnt improve it in any tangible way