@MrBombastic8
I see you came to this topic to post a defense of 2S38.
2S38 is 10.3 not 10.0; not sure why your post implies that it’s 10.0 when it isn’t.
Of course your post doesn’t want Abrams changed…
2S38 was correctly changed to 10.3 and should stay at its BR bump.
Not sure why @meki98 opposed my idea of fixing Abrams and lowering Strf 9040C back to 10.0 last year.
As opposed to what, an invincible killing machine with no armour weakness and a 360° spall shield completely protecting the crew,
The reason that the abrams doesn’t get it’s problems addressed is due to the fact that the facts are so far diluted by the ficticious dribble of fanatical mains that it’s become near impossible for people with the correct resources and information to be heard over the hoard of people with no idea what they are talking about
gaijin moved everything around a while ago moving everything around 10.0 up by 0.3 br
which in therms of the 2s38 changed nothing
so instead of the 2s38 destroying 10.3 leopards and challenger mk 3 while sharing the br with the 10.0 sv9040s
its now destroying 10.7 leopards and challenger mk 3 while sharing the br with the 10.3 sv9040s
2S38 never destroyed Leopard 2A4s, neither did Strf 9040C. The primary things with weak turret rings are Abrams and Type 90.
2S38 went from facing 9.0s to not facing 9.0s, which is a change.
Please be accurate in your posts next time.
I think they should increase the reloading rate as well. Like 0.9 sec instead of 0.5 sec.
Not facing 9.0s
MBT-70 KPZ-70 VFM-5 Type 16 P CM11 ZTZ96 etc…(too many 9.0s lineups vehicle) would like to have a word with you
None of those are 9.0, nor would they be used in 9.0 lineups.
If this is your reasoning then explain to everyone why OTOMATIC who also has a paper armour stands at BR 11.3 while 2s38 stands at BR 10.3 LMAO
Avoid using the usual excuse that it’s a SPAA you would only show that you have skill issues since we all know 2s38 is also a SPAA Gaijin made it a light vehicle to further enhance it and give it the scouting ability.
Also the excuse that OTOMATIC has APFSDS that pierce 311mm doesn’t hold water since it only has 12 in its ammo rack, while 2S38 has 148 APFSDS that it can fire all at once without its cannon overheating, which is just insane.
Another post defending the OTOMATIC’s BR claiming its perfect.
OTOMATIC is over-BR’d due to its APFSDS round and players over-using it as anti-tank. It needs its APFSDS removed and brought down to ~10.3.
Also the fact you want to buff 2S38 by making it a SPAA is hilarious! LOL!
Gaijin nerfing 2S38 by making it classed as a light tank isn’t a bad thing.
Blame the OTOMATIC’s manufacturer for its APFSDS limit. 2S38, HSTVL, Strf 9040, etc all don’t have limits because of superior manufacturing.
I agree with you.
AlvisWisla has already made several arguments about 2s38 in several other posts on the same topic… And I’ve noticed that he uses the usual excuse, without ever admitting that Gaijin has increased all high level vehicles by 0.3 BR, despite the fact that in every single post players have always pointed out to him that Gaijin has increased all high level vehicles by 0.3 BR… I too a while ago in another post, pointed out to AlvisWisla that 2s38 has increased all high level vehicles by 0.3 BR…At this point it is obvious that AlvisWisla is being a troll since he knows about this increase but doesn’t want to admit it… Or he is getting paid to say these things.
Sorry AlvisWisla, don’t take it personally, but I’m not going to get into an argument with you, because I already know it will end up in an endless loop with you not wanting to admit that 2s38 should get a BR increase, despite the clear problems this vehicle is giving… and this I consider just a waste of time.
Those who read the post have understood that you are willing to do anything to defend 2s38, moreover several players have pointed out to you that you are also writing nonsense to defend 2s38.
And here I close the conversation.
@Hetaeron
2S38 already got its BR increase, and I was among the first players to demand it when it came in at 9.7.
So yeah, keep defending the 2S38. I’ll keep critiquing it. There’s a reason there are zero posts of mine on the forum defending the 2S38.
In-fact the most defended tank from me is the HSTVL.
Gaijin did not increase the BR of 9.0s.
I don’t understand why you love to defend the 2S38 so much…
The fact you think I’m getting paid by a US military company to criticize the the 2S38 is hilarious.
The fact you think that everyone that criticizes the 2S38 are trolls is further evidence that you love the 2S38 as your favorite tank in WT.
Also @meki98 and @Hetaeron claimed these tanks are 9.3 now:
Whether its demands to buff the 2S38 by reducing its spawn points [SPAA], or claiming it’s anywhere close to the power that is RDFLT and HSTVL despite the fact 2S38 has customers and those tanks don’t which proves 2S38’s inferiority. The lower something is to produce, the more inferior it is in a number of ways on average.
It can easily be 11.3 but ruzzian bias
You are not talking about when 2s38 was at BR 9.7 but this post is addressing the fact that 2s38 is at BR 10.3 and should undergo a BR increase… Please don’t go off topic just to be right
Dude I never defended 2s38, the only one defending 2s38 is you, please avoid dumping your statements on me… I guess I have touched a nerve to have induced you to write such nonsense… Also what does the HSTVL have to do with anything? I never mentioned it as this post is about increasing BR 2s38.
However it’s not the first time I’ve seen you shift blame for statements you’ve made on the guy who points out that you’re wrong, I guess it’s your own self protection system… I don’t want to know, it’s your problem, not mine… Now you see why I didn’t want to get into a discussion with you, it’s impossible to have a healthy discussion.
Never said it was a ‘US military company’… Here again you are in full delusion… that’s why I didn’t want to have a coversation with you you indulge in incoherent thoughts or speeches and start ranting or raving.
And I don’t know where you got this from, but you should reread what I wrote in this post, but neither is what you stated true… Thank you for proving my point and confirming that you speak nonsense and phoniness…
Having said that I close the conversation completely, you can continue with your ramblings, but I will not answer you again.
@Hetaeron
Dude all your posts have done is defend the 2S38 by claiming it’s so great and amazing when it’s just good.
Strf 9040C should be made 10.0, and 2S38 is fine at 10.3. How many nuke videos have 2S38? Not many compared to other tanks. Even BMP3 has more nukes.
You made the overt claim that those 9.0s moved up with 2S38, but they’re still 9.0 and not 9.3.
Dude you use the same arguement every post to defend 2s38 from BR increase
The fact that u denied the listed vehicle from mine when literally you have to research some of them to progress further is crazy
It baffle me people like you exist
Eat sand
@MrBombastic8
Here you are coming to the defense of 2S38 cause it was moved up in BR.
The vehicles you listed weren’t moved up, they were all 9.3 when 2S38 was 10.0.
“It baffles me that people who defend 2S38 moving up in BR exist.” As obviously “like you” = “who defend 2S38 moving up in BR.”
There it is, you want 2S38 back to 10.0 and you hate everyone that got it moved up to 10.3.
Learn civility.
I made a typo
You use one sentence of my arguement to declare that shit when you ignore every of my other arguements
You nitpick someone arguement to tell them that they are wrong
And then someone call you out they get auto mod
crazy
@MrBombastic8 I’ve never ignored a post in the history of my life.
I’ve never dismissed arguments based on any singular aspect of an argument.
I’ve never nitpicked; addressing sentences is not nitpicking.
If you’re claiming to have called me out for criticizing 2S38 and getting it moved to 10.3; THAT is your posts defending 2S38.
Calling out my arguments MEANS to call out MY arguments, not strawmen invented by others.
IF you have an issue with me getting 2S38 moved up, so be it.
If you agree with me about the fact 2S38 got moved up, then fantastic.
Either way I have thousands of players that agree with my statement, including the OP’s agreement with me:
Though their post was a tad wrong on claiming it should be 11.0 when the vastly superior HSTVL was 11.3.
The difference between 2S38 and HSTVL is akin to the difference between T-54 and ZTZ-88.
Lot’s of weird projection here.
First off, I’m not gonna avoid anything, Lol. Lord.
Second off, as previously stated…design issue.
I’m sorry people don’t use the OTO strictly as SPAA and it’s magazine is restricted when compared to the 2S38.
Maybe it’s a skill issue with me, because when I get shot with any main tank round in the game my 2S38 get’s blown to pieces. I don’t carry maxed out ammunition either.
So based off of my experience, it’s fine where it’s at.
