2S38 needs a BR bump

Yes but that’s a problem all non missile carrying ifv have to suffer from

Imagine having Even less pen and only 24 rounds in the Ready rack
Which then reload at 1 round per 2 seconds excluding the time needed to actually get the shell into the gun to be able to Fire
While having a significantly worse vehicle over all

Or the puma ifv (non fire and forget missile version)

Maybe I also should Point out again the only tanks with good side armor are Russian which the 2s38 only Very rarely sees

The ZSU-37-2 is at 7.7 with radar

The Falcon is 8.3 without radar

Why is the 2S38 not 11.3 the same BR as the Otomatic given its increased killing power?

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BMP2m and 2x2s38 vs a single flak Truck
https://youtube.com/shorts/Wr42hcQVsU8?si=YF48eyqw9uFHAiC5

Because the Falcon has APDS with like 110mm of pen.

If the vehicle more efficient at ground combat is at a higher BR then why is the OTOMATIC higher?

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Cuz it’s light tank vs SPAA and you comparing SPAA to SPAA

The newest Russian 57-mm self-propelled anti-aircraft gun 2S38 “Derivation of Air Defense” can reliably protect the Khmeimim air force base in Syria from small-sized combat drones. Terrorists have been trying to use such weapons in recent days. According to military experts, it is difficult to find a better opportunity to test such a system in real conditions.

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You talking about balance in game make developers assing it to SPAA and only then compare it to SPAA

Yes ingame balance is what I’m talking about. It’s given a lower BR rating due to its lack of radar despite performing much better in the role Gaijin has given it.

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Why can the 2S38 face the MBT-70?

This MBT was designed in the 70s. It should not be facing APFSDS from 2022. There is no logic for placing the two at a BR where they can see each other.

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Stop whining!

what do you expect me to do when a 2s38 speeds past me at the speed of light and then kills me instantly

Gepard uses the same cannon but has radar and is also at 8.3

the falcon has no radar despite being armed with the same gun as Gepard at the same BR

I expect you to stop telling tall tales.

Since when can a Leo 1a5 stop 2S38 APFSDS. That thing can pen most things from the front at least somewhere. 2s38 is basically a normal tank cannon but full auto

I read the entire forum
Alwis guy said M60 has good armor for 9.0 XDDD LMAO
I swear these guy just want 2s38 to be at 10.0 so they can have easy game and denied abrams getting changes so they dont have to use their brains when facing it
I love wt players
And then theres mbt-70 xm803 and kpz-70 at 9.3 and he(Alwis) also said nah they are fine at 9.3 when it face T-72 and having shit round XD

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im fine with mbt70 and kpz70 being at 9.3, really good mobility, and funny shells

It’s fine where it’s at.
Thing has paper armor.

no armor=balanced?

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