I seriosly dont understand how 16v16 with these top tier planes with these armaments with small maps we still have, HOW IS THIS STILL NOT COMMON SENSE THAT ITS TOO MUCH? Do you even play devs? Its really mind bogling how we still have 16v16 for air rb in top tier. Seriosly its rediculouse
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64x64? 64 4th Gen fighters are a catastrophic loss for even the best air forces in the world. 128 lost 4th Gen fighters have a higher price than most countries’ whole GDP. Germany has 68!!! Tornadoes in service. You fail to realize that tossing your entire air force a la line infantry battle to establish total air supremacy over a region is in no way realistic. It is something the US could (but would not) do against nations like Iran, but definitely not peers like you see in Warthunder.
This is akin to saying “Abrams is made to cross trenches.”. Aircraft haven’t been that cheap or pilots that disposable since the Spanish Civil War. Even the 16v16 is essentially high fantasy in setting.
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Another really annoying thing about 16v16 matches are AI planes. AI planes and real players aren’t differentiated on the map radar thing on the top right which makes it really annoying having to constantly 360 check if it’s a real person or not. If you could set them to a different color it’d be a nice QoL change.
Also I find it hilarious that props have a chance to get 6v6 or 8v8 matches (not really necessary) meanwhile top tier is only 16v16 lol. Whoever is making these decisions is something else.
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we need 128v128
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i just want the chaos of 128v128
then play customs, there are plenty of such matches there
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I hope your trolling…
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Not to mention that the larger maps are a complete waste of time because so much is spent flying to the combat… so that we can have the same gameplay that we get on the smaller versions.
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This was my suggestion that I tried to apply to suggestion tab but it never passed the moderation, you can see some obvious mistakes here that I made regarding the br’s even tho I probably shouldn’t have even wrote about them as that was against the suggestion’s rules and maybe may be a reason why this wasn’t posted but it is what it is.
Whoever gets mad over the BR’s of the vehicles take note that I just slapped vehicles to lower br’s then intended as I wanted for this to actually come out during dev server.
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I’m trying to post suggestions like that aswell, but they seem to never get approved by moderation for some reason
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The game at top tier is hostile to learning and hostile to individual players.
When you die, it’s hard to think of a way to avoid it. You can only defer your death for 5 or 10 seconds; if your team crumbles that’s it, you lose. Only the meta jet players can influence the direction of the match, and that’s not because of better skill, only better weapons.
It’s frustrating and punishing even after you spend tons of time learning how to play.
Top tier gameplay is bad.
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I think 16x16 is great for lower BR’s that don’t have great missiles, but at high levels it’s really insane, but the problem with high BR’s is the low scale of the maps for fighters with such powerful radars and missiles.
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The current gamemode encourages everyone to meet in the center of the map. We need more spread objectives across the map and more airfields to take off from, pretty much like Air RB EC
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IRL most fights would be wing scale, BVR jousting. where squads of 2-4 would lock each other and launch radar missiles while jinking to drain the enemies missiles of energy. This is the vast majority of modern air combat, the complete opposite of the ww1 style furballs we get with 16v16 air rb.
This never happens in WT because you never know which one of the 16 enemy planes is locking you, so how can you joust them? In WT you just launch your radar missile, jink, and hope one of the 200 radar missiles on the enemy team doesent reach you first. Its a pure skilless dice roll. If you are in anything without the R27ER, you just fly low because the sparrows are leagues below the ER in terms of performance, and will likely just self destruct for no reason anyway.
I suspect you know that anyway though, since you are trolling.
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Dude, stop accusing everyone of trolling as that doesn’t help discussions.
If you’re facing any SARH including 27ER you just fly low cause they see ground reflections, which you already know as you said it you just forgot to include 27ER in your post.
Also WW2 was hundreds.
it’s literally only your ass who’s trolling here going back as the formation of your account.
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16 vs 16 or even 10 vs 10 is too much, it doesnt matter how big gaijin makes the Map since players will most likely always get drawn dead center of the map due to lack of Map innovation.
Skill is not even important at this point as it is just a massive furball of missile evasion.
The Average Player will get a kill or two and even if he is aware he will either get a friendly or enemy missile up their six.
Good players stay out of the furball and wait for the missile madness to calm down but imagine everyone will use that tactic …
They have done alot since 2012/13 however its still one main runway its still only 3-4 bases with most of them being around the center and not spread out.
AT top tier there is no point to grind ground targets with high level attackers like the Mirage 2k-D, Tornados, Su25T and the like, simply because they are not designed to compete with fighters and thats good, i still believe they should have a place in Air RB which they dont atm.
However those Objectives need to be spread out that much is just obvious,otherwise remove the ground objectives and just call it TDM.
My Solution would be 6v6 in on regular matches starting with 11.3+ , 8v8 on large maps and 10 v 10 on EC maps maybe even consider respawning just like in Ground Battles.
And as i mentioned the spread of Ground Targets bases and add something else like a Squad of ai Helicopters and make it worthwhile
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All:
On Youtube, the CC named Seek has an active poll with over 700 votes on this topic. He will be submitting to the dev. Go vote!
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Seek is awesome
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Where is the poll? Can you link it
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